Mk5 Golf GTi vs Edition 30
Discussion
I'm considering a new plaything. I would love to buy an old classic (think Lancia Fulvia.......and then I saw a stunning Flavia) but alas I don't have a garage for storage, local authority garages are too risky and off site storage is pricey plus it detracts from accessibility for those spontaneous weekend blast around the country lanes.
So, as a modern classic and one that i can also use as a daily driver (less than 3k pa as we have a family runner as well), i'm thinking of Mk5 golfs. I'm currently thinking of a long term proposition with a view to perhaps making a little return on it in the future (have you seen the price of low mile Mk1 or 2 Gti's ...... incredible these days).
So here's my pondering;
Should I buy a low owner (<35k), Mk5 GTi or a higher mile Edition 30 (>70k). I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun in both but which one is likely to appreciate more in the long term. My gut feel says the low mile stock GTi..... plus I fancy a bit of that low end grunt that the Mk5 GTi was famous for!
having said that the exclusivity of the Edition 30 and that extra power is attractive.
Or.......should I buy another Corrado VR6?
So, as a modern classic and one that i can also use as a daily driver (less than 3k pa as we have a family runner as well), i'm thinking of Mk5 golfs. I'm currently thinking of a long term proposition with a view to perhaps making a little return on it in the future (have you seen the price of low mile Mk1 or 2 Gti's ...... incredible these days).
So here's my pondering;
Should I buy a low owner (<35k), Mk5 GTi or a higher mile Edition 30 (>70k). I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun in both but which one is likely to appreciate more in the long term. My gut feel says the low mile stock GTi..... plus I fancy a bit of that low end grunt that the Mk5 GTi was famous for!
having said that the exclusivity of the Edition 30 and that extra power is attractive.
Or.......should I buy another Corrado VR6?
I'd go for the edition 30.
You do miniscule miles so even running a 70k mile one for 5 years is only going to be 85k.
I don't think a common or garden mk5 with low miles is going to hold as much appeal down the line as an ED30 particularly if you're paying a premium for one over a regular miles mk5
You do miniscule miles so even running a 70k mile one for 5 years is only going to be 85k.
I don't think a common or garden mk5 with low miles is going to hold as much appeal down the line as an ED30 particularly if you're paying a premium for one over a regular miles mk5
If you're after appreciation:-
- Buy a limited edition;
- Buy the lowest mileage you can;
- Buy the best 'badge' that you can, unless the car has motorsport heritage or a gilt-edged reputation (Mk5 GTi doesn't, for reference - Clio Trophy / Mk1 Focus RS / DC2 Integra Type R are probably the only cars in that area / approx age that do)
So on that basis I'd keep looking for a low-mile Ed30, or change target car.
- Buy a limited edition;
- Buy the lowest mileage you can;
- Buy the best 'badge' that you can, unless the car has motorsport heritage or a gilt-edged reputation (Mk5 GTi doesn't, for reference - Clio Trophy / Mk1 Focus RS / DC2 Integra Type R are probably the only cars in that area / approx age that do)
So on that basis I'd keep looking for a low-mile Ed30, or change target car.
Can I just ask, very capable cars that they are, is there not something else thatd give you more smiles per mile that a golf?
This comes from a former mk1, mk4 and mk5 gti owner so don't take it as critism.
I get the long term ownership and storage issues, but after you've factored in insurance, tax, etc your not getting out of it with a profit so you might as well go with something more fun
This comes from a former mk1, mk4 and mk5 gti owner so don't take it as critism.
I get the long term ownership and storage issues, but after you've factored in insurance, tax, etc your not getting out of it with a profit so you might as well go with something more fun
I too think the GTI, what ever form, isn’t going to feel special for the limited mileage you’re doing. I’m a mk6 GTI owner by the way - fantastic daily commuter and accomplished at pretty much everything, but i wouldn’t buy one for pure driving enjoyment. If you’re insistent on the mk5 then I’d much rather get the R32. That will feel a lot more special and probably do better value wise.
Thanks all. Great advice.
Forgot to mention that i plan to use as my daily 'station car' as well as for fun. Hence, thinking along the lines of a Golf.
Agree with so many of the comments made and cars such as the Integra R would be high on the fun list (as would a 205GTi, 306 GTi-6, Renault Megane Cup, Clio Williams, Escort RS Turbo Mk 1....... you know where this is going). Have a list as long as my arm (well, both arms probably) of cars to own before I'm too old to enjoy them.
Have also been thinking of the R32 (currently driving a Corrado VR6 as my daily driver) and found a dealer who has a range of R32's and GTi's. Guess I better pay them a visit and try them both out.
Forgot to mention that i plan to use as my daily 'station car' as well as for fun. Hence, thinking along the lines of a Golf.
Agree with so many of the comments made and cars such as the Integra R would be high on the fun list (as would a 205GTi, 306 GTi-6, Renault Megane Cup, Clio Williams, Escort RS Turbo Mk 1....... you know where this is going). Have a list as long as my arm (well, both arms probably) of cars to own before I'm too old to enjoy them.
Have also been thinking of the R32 (currently driving a Corrado VR6 as my daily driver) and found a dealer who has a range of R32's and GTi's. Guess I better pay them a visit and try them both out.
James080 said:
I'm considering a new plaything. I would love to buy an old classic (think Lancia Fulvia.......and then I saw a stunning Flavia) but alas I don't have a garage for storage, local authority garages are too risky and off site storage is pricey plus it detracts from accessibility for those spontaneous weekend blast around the country lanes.
So, as a modern classic and one that i can also use as a daily driver (less than 3k pa as we have a family runner as well), i'm thinking of Mk5 golfs. I'm currently thinking of a long term proposition with a view to perhaps making a little return on it in the future (have you seen the price of low mile Mk1 or 2 Gti's ...... incredible these days).
So here's my pondering;
Should I buy a low owner (<35k), Mk5 GTi or a higher mile Edition 30 (>70k). I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun in both but which one is likely to appreciate more in the long term. My gut feel says the low mile stock GTi..... plus I fancy a bit of that low end grunt that the Mk5 GTi was famous for!
having said that the exclusivity of the Edition 30 and that extra power is attractive.
Or.......should I buy another Corrado VR6?
An Edition 30 will never appreciate in value.So, as a modern classic and one that i can also use as a daily driver (less than 3k pa as we have a family runner as well), i'm thinking of Mk5 golfs. I'm currently thinking of a long term proposition with a view to perhaps making a little return on it in the future (have you seen the price of low mile Mk1 or 2 Gti's ...... incredible these days).
So here's my pondering;
Should I buy a low owner (<35k), Mk5 GTi or a higher mile Edition 30 (>70k). I'm sure I'll have a lot of fun in both but which one is likely to appreciate more in the long term. My gut feel says the low mile stock GTi..... plus I fancy a bit of that low end grunt that the Mk5 GTi was famous for!
having said that the exclusivity of the Edition 30 and that extra power is attractive.
Or.......should I buy another Corrado VR6?
It will never be a modern classic. It is nothing like a Mk1/Mk2.
Just buy the Ed30 which is a better car in every way and use it.
If you're doing such low miles then forget about 'sensible engine' altogether - mpg is irrelevant.
So a VW would have to be an R32 of some kind...
...but a V8 would be SO much better. Maybe something quiet and unassuming like a TVR
(More seriously...Monaro's are going for low money now, and an old left-hooker C5 'vette isn't that much more)
Alfa GTV V6 maybe, tickle the 'classic' itch - Busso V6, looks pretty, wouldn't get a second glance in a station car park except by cognoscenti...
...or one of the cars you've mentioned - pretty much every classic benefits from regular use, maybe just squirrel away when it's icy, to avoid the road salt...
So a VW would have to be an R32 of some kind...
...but a V8 would be SO much better. Maybe something quiet and unassuming like a TVR
(More seriously...Monaro's are going for low money now, and an old left-hooker C5 'vette isn't that much more)
Alfa GTV V6 maybe, tickle the 'classic' itch - Busso V6, looks pretty, wouldn't get a second glance in a station car park except by cognoscenti...
...or one of the cars you've mentioned - pretty much every classic benefits from regular use, maybe just squirrel away when it's icy, to avoid the road salt...
FN2TypeR said:
Save yourself a few quid over the cost of an Edition 30; buy the standardMk5 and remap it.
The Ed30 likely won't appreciate and if it does I'd be amazed if the increase in its value covered its running costs.
But even then it's around 250hp, where as an equivalent remap on an Ed30 will get over 300 The Ed30 likely won't appreciate and if it does I'd be amazed if the increase in its value covered its running costs.
xjay1337 said:
FN2TypeR said:
Save yourself a few quid over the cost of an Edition 30; buy the standardMk5 and remap it.
The Ed30 likely won't appreciate and if it does I'd be amazed if the increase in its value covered its running costs.
But even then it's around 250hp, where as an equivalent remap on an Ed30 will get over 300 The Ed30 likely won't appreciate and if it does I'd be amazed if the increase in its value covered its running costs.
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