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Wondering if any one has any advice regarding my situation.
I’ve been supervisor in a small department of s big company for about 18 years. I’ve worked with the company for just over 21 years.
They are talking about merging my department into part of one of the bigger ones.
My job would essentially be the same, but in the new department I would probably end up having to do stuff I don’t currently do.
I do not want to move into the other department, so am wondering what would justify me asking for redundancy.
If my department was closed down would that be enough for me to get it?
Would the additional tasks be enough to allow me to say my job has changed enough?
I really want to get out and use my redundancy money for more training to go elsewhere
I’m pretty certain they will try to say I’m doing he same job just in a different department, and know they will not want me to leave
I’ve been supervisor in a small department of s big company for about 18 years. I’ve worked with the company for just over 21 years.
They are talking about merging my department into part of one of the bigger ones.
My job would essentially be the same, but in the new department I would probably end up having to do stuff I don’t currently do.
I do not want to move into the other department, so am wondering what would justify me asking for redundancy.
If my department was closed down would that be enough for me to get it?
Would the additional tasks be enough to allow me to say my job has changed enough?
I really want to get out and use my redundancy money for more training to go elsewhere
I’m pretty certain they will try to say I’m doing he same job just in a different department, and know they will not want me to leave
Redundancy isnt getting rid of people it's getting rid of roles.
Sounds to me like your role will still exist and be expanded, that doesn't sound like a redundancy situation, unless there's an equivalent of you in the other department and they only need one of you going forwards.
Not wanting to do something isnt a valid reason to get redundancy.
Sounds to me like your role will still exist and be expanded, that doesn't sound like a redundancy situation, unless there's an equivalent of you in the other department and they only need one of you going forwards.
Not wanting to do something isnt a valid reason to get redundancy.
djdest said:
I understand that, and that I just cannot choose it and when I want it.
I’m more wondering how much different my job has to be for me to say new position is not the same
There is no black and white answer that says add X, Y and Z to your current role the it's no longer the same. I’m more wondering how much different my job has to be for me to say new position is not the same
If you want to push it, then you may need to leave without any guarantee of payment then make a claim for it. Even then what are you claiming for? Statutory redundancy? Have you done the calculation on the .gov.uk website to see what you would get?
The is the minimum they would have to pay, whether they add anything voluntarily is anyone’s guess!
Remember that it is calculated with your age during those years, not your current age.
I am 46 this year, so sadly some of those 21 years were done at the lower rate, plus it’s capped at 20 years.
Regarding specifics, they haven’t said exactly what will change yet, so I’m trying to preempt what they think they will try to get me to do.
In a nutshell, I am supervisor for loading all vehicles, and unloading some trunk trailers, those tasks are all my department does.
If I get moved to where I think, we will still that work, but I’m certain they will have us doing other jobs such as picking and packing and unloading containers.
So it would sort of be the same, but different tasks.
I’m wondering if that was the case, would I have a strong enough case to say my current role and job no longer exist, and therefore get laid off
Remember that it is calculated with your age during those years, not your current age.
I am 46 this year, so sadly some of those 21 years were done at the lower rate, plus it’s capped at 20 years.
Regarding specifics, they haven’t said exactly what will change yet, so I’m trying to preempt what they think they will try to get me to do.
In a nutshell, I am supervisor for loading all vehicles, and unloading some trunk trailers, those tasks are all my department does.
If I get moved to where I think, we will still that work, but I’m certain they will have us doing other jobs such as picking and packing and unloading containers.
So it would sort of be the same, but different tasks.
I’m wondering if that was the case, would I have a strong enough case to say my current role and job no longer exist, and therefore get laid off
Thesprucegoose said:
Better to have a job than none 10k wont last long.
I partly agree. However I have been in the same deadend position for 18 years now. While I do enjoy the job, the pay isn’t great, I’m on permanent late shift and I have no positions higher that I could aim for or want to aim for. I fancy a new challenge.
I would use the money to get rigid and artic licences and get on the road. Instant 4-5k payrise.
I also fancy moving long distance at some point in the future. If I have my licences I can move and jump straight into agency work to keep some cash coming in while I settled down and found something permanent again.
We shall see what happens.
Already today I have learnt it seems that the other department doesn’t want to take on my shift due to having to pay our wages, so maybe redundancy isn’t out of the window just yet
I wouldn't count on hgv licence getting you out of problems, you need 2 years experience at the least before anybody would touch you, and you have the problem of where to gain the experience. Better to do retraining around current job, if they make you redundant deal with it, but it ain't an easy option no matter the payout.
These days most companies want you to have a licence, but because I've been doing it for so long I am an exception.
They value that highly because they would obviously have to pay someone with a licence a lot more, as they found out a few years ago when they tried to get someone else in to do it
They value that highly because they would obviously have to pay someone with a licence a lot more, as they found out a few years ago when they tried to get someone else in to do it
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