Torque Wrench
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bobski1

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2,095 posts

135 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Need a torque wrench in order to change the rocker cover on mini, only 10Nm so 1/4" drive.

Had a chat with the Snap On man on site & the best he can do is £178, Halfords only goes to 12Nm.

Any other brands which are worth considering?

trickywoo

14,274 posts

261 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Draper will do a job but for 10nm I’d just nip them up.

That is basically finger tight then a slight turn on a socket / spanner.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

286 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Norbar are the dogs danglies, but won't be cheap (though quite a bit less than Snap-On). Teng is another good quality manufacturer.

However, unless you want to buy a nice quality torque wrench anyway (and I wouldn't blame you at all) it seems like a lot of expense for pretty simple and non-critical job. You could use a ratchet and a cheap spring balance if you don't think you can get close by hand.

Oscar011

169 posts

104 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Like others have said I’d just hand tighten and give it a slight turn. But if you are going to use this torque wrench for the future again I’d recommend Teng

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

286 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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TVR Moneypit said:
For most normal fasteners, I'd be inclined to agree, but for a cam cover, especially if it's a plastic one, I'd rather not go risking it. I'd also be tightening them in the order the manufacturer recommended, and if I couldn't find that info, start from the middle and spiral my way out diagonally, (if you catch my drift?).
Plastic ones are ok, its usualy the alloy ones you have to be careful about torquing evenly to avoid cracking them.

agent006

12,058 posts

295 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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I use one of these for bike jobs, does 10nm, is cheap. Might need some adapter shenanigans to get a socket onto it though.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/topeak-combo-to...

thebraketester

15,839 posts

169 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Zulu 10 said:
When I needed to replace numerous casing bolts on a Jaguar V8 engine a few years ago I bought a Teng 1/4" torque wrench which seemed a sensible compromise between quality and cost for a DIYer.
The same model (1492AGE) is still available from Amazon for £44.
That’s the one I have got and it’s fantastic. I’ve used it loads.

kambites

71,681 posts

252 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Oscar011 said:
Like others have said I’d just hand tighten and give it a slight turn. But if you are going to use this torque wrench for the future again I’d recommend Teng
yes You really don't need a torque wrench for putting on a rocker cover!

grumpy52

6,079 posts

197 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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You really don't need to torque up mini rocker covers .

I have a Britool 600 torque wrench that I have owned for about 40 yrs .
It covers from 40 lbs/ft to about 210 .and cost me £11.50p .
Whatever you buy always reset to zero or leave it unloaded when not in use .

E-bmw

13,635 posts

183 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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grumpy52 said:
You really don't need to torque up mini rocker covers .

I have a Britool 600 torque wrench that I have owned for about 40 yrs .
It covers from 40 lbs/ft to about 210 .and cost me £11.50p .
Whatever you buy always reset to zero or leave it unloaded when not in use .
Slightly disagree with that, most manufacturers say set to the lowest setting, not fully unloaded.

Sheepshanks

41,336 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th May 2018
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Using a torque wrench is pretty random in any event - a lot depends on how dry the threads are and, of course, how accurate the wrench is. At low values you could be way-out.


Edited by Sheepshanks on Wednesday 30th May 08:55

Sanchez89

25 posts

105 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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The Halfords Professional torque wrenches mentioned earlier, at least the older style black & orange ones, were made by Norbar. Who in my experience anyway make the best torque wrenches available. As others have said for such a small torque on a rocker cover a small 1/4 ratchet or small spanner and hand tight would be plenty acceptable, but I understand the OP's position and they clearly want it done correctly. In that case you need to pay slightly more and get one that's at least got some sort of credible calibration on it. Maybe try looking for a used Norbar, or try and find a Teng at a good price.

That's my 2p's worth

E-bmw

13,635 posts

183 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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I understand the suggestion based on a price-point but, I would NEVER trust a tool like a torque wrench if it were second hand, you never know how it has been treated.

Even getting it calibration checked may not be enough if it comes back as wrong, then you have wasted the cost of the tool & it's calibration.

If you want a torque wrench buy a new one from a well-known manufacturer with a calibration certificate, only keep it in its correct box & treat it as the instructions tell you to do, not as someone once told you 30 years ago, it is the only way.

IF ALL ELSE FAILS FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS.

anonymous-user

85 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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Zulu 10 said:
When I needed to replace numerous casing bolts on a Jaguar V8 engine a few years ago I bought a Teng 1/4" torque wrench which seemed a sensible compromise between quality and cost for a DIYer.
The same model (1492AGE) is still available from Amazon for £44.
Funnily enough the 3/8" version covers the same torque range but is £4 cheaper..

Mignon

1,018 posts

120 months

Wednesday 30th May 2018
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No one with a brain needs a torque wrench to do up a rocker cover. You need torque wrenches to do up big end bolts which can destroy the engine if you get it wrong.

anonymous-user

85 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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I had/have 3 torque wrenches, a good Japanese one (can't remember the make, but it was wrong side of 150 pounds), a cheapo bought at the Bristol Kit car show, and a Biltima, (which is a Scandinavian Halfords type thing.
I used to work for a Nuclear contractor, and we had to have tools certified on a regular basis, I had all three checked and all three would have been certified for work in a Nuclear, station, But I store them correctly so they cant rust and release the pressure on the spring. The one bought at the Kit car show cost 6 pounds

E-bmw

13,635 posts

183 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Friction on the fastening thread/mating surface of course affects the amount that a bolt needs to be turned to achieve the required torque.

Have you ever undone a rusted nut/bolt?

That is about the best example you will get, the bolt isn't tighter than when it was done up but the friction & therefore torque required is MUCH higher.

E-bmw

13,635 posts

183 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Exactly correct.

We bolt up pipe flanges & fittings offshore & our torque figures STATE the figure & the lubricant to be used.

tapkaJohnD

2,000 posts

235 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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10Nm is less than 8ft-lbs, That not even hand-tight, it's 'finger-tight'!
Absolutley no need for such a torque wrench!

JOhn
PS "What's 'hand-tight'?" It's what you can exert (unless you're an arm-wrestilng freak) with your hand and wrist, not using the elbow or shoulder. Rough but then a rocker cover's tightness is NOT critiical!

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 1st June 2018
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E-bmw, surprised your still using torque wrench on offshore flanges, I thought most flange tightening was done with stretch calculations these days, because torque wrenches can be a bit variable.