ID date this item we have dug up.
ID date this item we have dug up.
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astroarcadia

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Thursday 31st May 2018
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Found this small glass bottle whilst digging on a site recently. Does anyone have an idea of the age or what is was used for?





NDA

25,659 posts

255 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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What an amazing thing to find!

To my untrained eye, it looks more medieval than Roman.... but someone will be along to say 'Penhaligons' circa 1983. smile

I would say a perfume bottle.

astroarcadia

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Thursday 31st May 2018
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Yes, tis a lovely little thing.

ApOrbital

10,592 posts

148 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Roman buttplug.

XJSJohn

16,152 posts

249 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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whats it made of? Ceramic? Metal? Glass? (i assume ceramic)

Ozone

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217 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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I think I read from an expert on PH, to tell when it's from you hold the vase in the palm of your hand and flick the top edge of it with your finger.

If it resonates with a 'Tiiiiiiinnnggg' it's from the Ting Dynasty

If it resonates with a 'Miiiinngg' it's from the Ming Dynasty

If it doesn't resonate it's from Argos

HTH biggrin

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

249 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Looks like iridescent coated glass - although it could just be the lighting. The glass itself looks brown. Brown glass is often used to store light sensitive materials.

My guess is it's an old apothecary, tincture, perfume or even poison bottle - perhaps something like this.




Edited by Moonhawk on Thursday 31st May 10:49

astroarcadia

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XJSJohn said:
whats it made of? Ceramic? Metal? Glass? (i assume ceramic)
Glass I think.

Robbo 27

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129 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Same style of vase and vinish is still in use by modern glass makers


FredClogs

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191 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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ApOrbital said:
Roman buttplug.
This

Hoofy

80,084 posts

312 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Ozone said:
I think I read from an expert on PH, to tell when it's from you hold the vase in the palm of your hand and flick the top edge of it with your finger.

If it resonates with a 'Tiiiiiiinnnggg' it's from the Ting Dynasty

If it resonates with a 'Miiiinngg' it's from the Ming Dynasty

If it doesn't resonate it's from Argos

HTH biggrin
That's probably racist. But I'm chinese and snorted coffee out of my nose.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

230 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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It's used for storing deadly plague samples.

glenrobbo

40,508 posts

180 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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OP, did you also unearth the remains of some snaps of old lace adjacent to the object?
If so, it's an arsenic bottle.

Steamer

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243 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Have you tried giving it a rub?

...I heard a story about a guy that ended up with a 10 inch pianist after finding a similar item

Gary29

5,234 posts

129 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Steamer said:
...I heard a story about a guy that ended up with a 10 inch pianist after finding a similar item
Was he any good at tinkling the ivory?

NDA

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255 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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Have you found anything else in the area that might give you a vague idea of date?

I still think perfume bottle and my money would be on medieval - it has that kind of look.

Andy McConnell (the glass expert on Antiques Roadshow) is based in Rye - fairly easy to get hold of... might be worth asking him?

Have you a shot of the bottom of it?

Edited by NDA on Thursday 31st May 17:03

Robbo 27

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129 months

Thursday 31st May 2018
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This is a pic of a Roman scent bottle,


astroarcadia

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NDA said:
Have you found anything else in the area that might give you a vague idea of date?

I still think perfume bottle and my money would be on medieval - it has that kind of look.

Andy McConnell (the glass expert on Antiques Roadshow) is based in Rye - fairly easy to get hold of... might be worth asking him?

Have you a shot of the bottom of it?

Edited by NDA on Thursday 31st May 17:03
Bones (animal), broken pottery, oyster shells.

my guess from wiki.......

An unguentarium (plural "unguentaria")[1] is a small ceramic or glass bottle found frequently by archaeologists at Hellenistic and Roman sites, especially in cemeteries.[2] Its most common use was probably as a container for oil, though it is also suited for storing and dispensing liquid and powdered substances. Some finds date into the early Christian era.[3] From the 2nd to the 6th century they are more often made of blown glass rather than clay.[4] A few examples are silver or alabaster.[5]

astroarcadia

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Thursday 31st May 2018
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Other items found at a shallower depth in the same area.......


GOG440

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Thursday 31st May 2018
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astroarcadia said:
Other items found at a shallower depth in the same area.......

I think you need to get the archaeologists in, those look like human femoral heads from that photo, and the pottery looks very old to me, that pot base on the right could be roman (no experience of pottery but watched a lot of time team lol)
In my inexpert opinion there looks to be stuff from quite a wide spread of history there,