Need a second opinion on PPF job?
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Hi guys. I've had some problems with the PPF on my car,
there is some thick PPF on the underside of my door that has begun to peel off, but most notably there is a large bubble on the front bumper that has developed.
The ppf company says it's not his fault, saying that its caused by someone who's got too close with the lance of a jet wash.
I argue how can it be, the edges are sealed. It's a random bubble in the middle. It's also peeling at the edges in various places that are not jet washed, such as the underside of the doors.
What's your opinions? Is this my fault from a jet wash, or failure of the PPF?
there is some thick PPF on the underside of my door that has begun to peel off, but most notably there is a large bubble on the front bumper that has developed.
The ppf company says it's not his fault, saying that its caused by someone who's got too close with the lance of a jet wash.
I argue how can it be, the edges are sealed. It's a random bubble in the middle. It's also peeling at the edges in various places that are not jet washed, such as the underside of the doors.
What's your opinions? Is this my fault from a jet wash, or failure of the PPF?
Looks like poor preparation, making sure that the surfaces were scrupulously clean and degreased. A single point failure by an edge could be argued as a jet-wash issue. The bubble in the centre points to a preparation issue or poor application of the film leaving air trapped and this has gathered into a bubble in the recent hot weather. HTH
It can't be fixed and needs removal and start again.
It can't be fixed and needs removal and start again.
I know the PPF company, they told me to get a second opinion on a PPF forum when I doubted him, as he's really confident to say that its caused by a jet-wash and not PPF failure.
(the bubble was full of water before but has since dried out).
It's going to cost me nearly £400 to get it replaced
But in addition going to cost even more because I have orange accents over the top of the PPF so they will need to be re-done as well
(the bubble was full of water before but has since dried out).
It's going to cost me nearly £400 to get it replaced
But in addition going to cost even more because I have orange accents over the top of the PPF so they will need to be re-done as well I'm no expert, so this is just theoretical - but I guess their argument could be that although PPF protects against a stone chipping the paintwork the PPF can still be 'punctured'.
Then by jet washing too closely water is pushed through the puncture at high pressure.
The water is then trapped behind the film and from then on things just get worse.
As I say - I'm just guessing at their 'get out clause'.
Then by jet washing too closely water is pushed through the puncture at high pressure.
The water is then trapped behind the film and from then on things just get worse.
As I say - I'm just guessing at their 'get out clause'.
If the bubble was full of water then there has been a failure along the glue line at the edge, possibly from too enthusiastic use of a jet wash. However the film shouldn't fail to the extent shown if properly prepared and applied (see my earlier comments). The film won't puncture from a jetwash but the film may delaminate along the edge if the jet is aimed at the glueline for too long. My money is still on a poor application and getting the doorshuts properly clean is one of the most skimped / overlooked areas of wrapping application.
If you have used a detailer to clean your car they know not to aim the jetwash nozzle at the film edge. Hand car wash outlets are not so expert however.
If you have used a detailer to clean your car they know not to aim the jetwash nozzle at the film edge. Hand car wash outlets are not so expert however.
Jetwashes will happily remove clearcoat when used at the pointblank range so many people believe is fine.
A decent stonechip is usually a good starting point & I see it most on bumpers & bonnets - did the same trick on the bonnet of my own car when not paying attention to the job in hand, took a piece of clear off about the size of my palm.
Can't really see PPF being much different & edges are going to be particularly vulnerable.
If you must use a pressure washer on the paint then don't get the tip too close - chiselling dead flies off which is mentioned in another thread is a definite no.
A decent stonechip is usually a good starting point & I see it most on bumpers & bonnets - did the same trick on the bonnet of my own car when not paying attention to the job in hand, took a piece of clear off about the size of my palm.
Can't really see PPF being much different & edges are going to be particularly vulnerable.
If you must use a pressure washer on the paint then don't get the tip too close - chiselling dead flies off which is mentioned in another thread is a definite no.
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