919 at the ring

[theredbaron]

interesrting !

https://youtu.be/pkwZbu-aaX4

[Cheib]

Motoring jounro's were discussing this in Twitter yesterday....seems like the rumour is a frankly unbelievable 5 min 15 secs...and if you based it on how quick its been vs GT3 R at other tracks it could in theory go below 5 mins.

[Dr S]

Insane step up from Belloff's magic 6:11 lap

[Andy M]

Cheib said:

Motoring jounro's were discussing this in Twitter yesterday....seems like the rumour is a frankly unbelievable 5 min 15 secs...and if you based it on how quick its been vs GT3 R at other tracks it could in theory go below 5 mins.

It appears very likely that it will at least hit 5m 5s, but if I were to put money on it I reckon it may dip below 5 mins.

[Porsche911R]

I thought it was released 5.01

[Steve Rance]

Dr S said:

Insane step up from Belloff's magic 6:11 lap

I was given to believe that Beloff’s lap included the GP circuit. Still a very quick lap for the 919. I’ve heard it’s a minute quicker than the 2 RS straight out of the box

[MDL111]

impressive - although not really like for like given changes to the track (resurfacing etc). I'd think it is faster today then it was then

[LaurasOtherHalf]

Steve Rance said:

Dr S said:

Insane step up from Belloff's magic 6:11 lap

I was given to believe that Beloff’s lap included the GP circuit. Still a very quick lap for the 919. I’ve heard it’s a minute quicker than the 2 RS straight out of the box

I'm pretty sure the group c cars just used the north loop in '84, in fact I seem to remember they used the old pits at T13? I could be wrong...

[thegreenhell]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

Steve Rance said:

Dr S said:

Insane step up from Belloff's magic 6:11 lap

I was given to believe that Beloff’s lap included the GP circuit. Still a very quick lap for the 919. I’ve heard it’s a minute quicker than the 2 RS straight out of the box

I'm pretty sure the group c cars just used the north loop in '84, in fact I seem to remember they used the old pits at T13? I could be wrong...

It was 1983, the year that the new GP circuit was under construction. It's the only year that just the Nordschleife was used for major international races.

For comparison, Christian Danner was fastest in the F2 race that year with a 6:28 lap, and Tom Walkinshaw's XJS was fastest in the ETCC race with 7:56.

[Welshbeef]

Why are these not going to Le Mans 2018???

[LaurasOtherHalf]

thegreenhell said:

LaurasOtherHalf said:

Steve Rance said:

Dr S said:

Insane step up from Belloff's magic 6:11 lap

I was given to believe that Beloff’s lap included the GP circuit. Still a very quick lap for the 919. I’ve heard it’s a minute quicker than the 2 RS straight out of the box

I'm pretty sure the group c cars just used the north loop in '84, in fact I seem to remember they used the old pits at T13? I could be wrong...

It was 1983, the year that the new GP circuit was under construction. It's the only year that just the Nordschleife was used for major international races.

For comparison, Christian Danner was fastest in the F2 race that year with a 6:28 lap, and Tom Walkinshaw's XJS was fastest in the ETCC race with 7:56.

[Steve Rance]

thegreenhell said:

It was 1983, the year that the new GP circuit was under construction. It's the only year that just the Nordschleife was used for major international races.

For comparison, Christian Danner was fastest in the F2 race that year with a 6:28 lap, and Tom Walkinshaw's XJS was fastest in the ETCC race with 7:56.

Ah. Understood. Well yes, the 919 is indeed very fast then, but for me the Bellof lap was and will alway be THE lap of the Nordshleife.

[colin1976]

Steve Rance said:

Ah. Understood. Well yes, the 919 is indeed very fast then, but for me the Bellof lap was and will alway be THE lap of the Nordshleife.

Tough call, but the Stefan Roser lap(s) just take it for me...

[Jim1556]

This one?

https://youtu.be/BjEypd3c7AQ

[colin1976]

Jim1556 said:

This one?

https://youtu.be/BjEypd3c7AQ

Yep

[browngt3]

Steve Rance said:

thegreenhell said:

It was 1983, the year that the new GP circuit was under construction. It's the only year that just the Nordschleife was used for major international races.

For comparison, Christian Danner was fastest in the F2 race that year with a 6:28 lap, and Tom Walkinshaw's XJS was fastest in the ETCC race with 7:56.

Ah. Understood. Well yes, the 919 is indeed very fast then, but for me the Bellof lap was and will alway be THE lap of the Nordshleife.

+1
As impressive as this 919 is, it has been built specifically as a record breaker and not restricted by any racing regs. Bellof on the other hand if I recall was qualifying his 956 - a regular racing car subject to Group C regulations. That's why it will always be THE lap.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the 956 had a manual box, with PDK introduced in the 962. All the more impressive if I'm right. Bellof was/still is an absolute legend.

[ellroy]

No doubts about that at all. Bellof’s lap is the stuff of legend for many reasons as previously listed.

For me though the interesting bit is the showcasing of the engineering and the advances that have been made in recent times. Although to be fair whoever the driver is he’s got some balls.

[Dr Gitlin]

browngt3 said:

+1
As impressive as this 919 is, it has been built specifically as a record breaker and not restricted by any racing regs. Bellof on the other hand if I recall was qualifying his 956 - a regular racing car subject to Group C regulations. That's why it will always be THE lap.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the 956 had a manual box, with PDK introduced in the 962. All the more impressive if I'm right. Bellof was/still is an absolute legend.

Even if they ran the regular 919 Hybrid with fuel flow restrictions and no active aero, it would still be able to lap significantly quicker than the 956. GT3 cars are now about Group C-fast, because tyres have come a very long way in 25+ years.

[browngt3]

Dr Gitlin said:

browngt3 said:

+1
As impressive as this 919 is, it has been built specifically as a record breaker and not restricted by any racing regs. Bellof on the other hand if I recall was qualifying his 956 - a regular racing car subject to Group C regulations. That's why it will always be THE lap.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the 956 had a manual box, with PDK introduced in the 962. All the more impressive if I'm right. Bellof was/still is an absolute legend.

Even if they ran the regular 919 Hybrid with fuel flow restrictions and no active aero, it would still be able to lap significantly quicker than the 956. GT3 cars are now about Group C-fast, because tyres have come a very long way in 25+ years.

Agreed, which is why perhaps they should run the stock car. Would have more meaning imo

[ttdan]

browngt3 said:

Dr Gitlin said:

browngt3 said:

+1
As impressive as this 919 is, it has been built specifically as a record breaker and not restricted by any racing regs. Bellof on the other hand if I recall was qualifying his 956 - a regular racing car subject to Group C regulations. That's why it will always be THE lap.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the 956 had a manual box, with PDK introduced in the 962. All the more impressive if I'm right. Bellof was/still is an absolute legend.

Even if they ran the regular 919 Hybrid with fuel flow restrictions and no active aero, it would still be able to lap significantly quicker than the 956. GT3 cars are now about Group C-fast, because tyres have come a very long way in 25+ years.

Agreed, which is why perhaps they should run the stock car. Would have more meaning imo

None of it has any meaning. Just click bait marketing tosh. Bellof was in competitioln, so meaningful in that regard relative to others on that day. I have no doubt Audi could rock up with their recent LMP contender and get close to the 919 if they had thought of it first.

Good to watch though:-)