An An honest review on a bucket list car - Range Rover.
An An honest review on a bucket list car - Range Rover.
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Joe5y

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1,614 posts

203 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Opening myself up here for a kicking!

Okay, so this isn’t going to be a “bucket list” car to many but it was certainly one of the cars I’ve always wanted to own since seeing it in 2002.

The 2010 Range Rover Vogue TDV8.

After many years of owning a variation of cars I found myself in the situation of needing a bigger car; out goes my beloved C350 Coupe and the hunt for a family car began.

Budget firmly set at £17,500 I found myself looking at face-lifted Range Rovers, L322’s. Plenty to choose from and many bad examples but I found what I deemed to be a good for c.£15,000; I guess I was wrong.

Ownership. Collected from Bournemouth on a Saturday full of excitement. Car looked lovely, all checked out, test drive complete, so money was paid and off I went.

First impressions; it’s big, slower than expected, sounds like a tractor (not sure what I expected from a V8 diesel) and drove not quite as well as I’d been lead to believe but maybe I was just not used to it. The infotainment was old, the stereo (H&K Logic7) was rattling and no where near as good as my 2005 e60’s, there was the notorious LR rear squeak, it just didn’t feel good.

After a few weeks and making excuses to myself I started resenting it, not looking forward to the drive to or from work and I was having ownership anxiety; something I only had in my Fiat Coupe Turbo from years gone by (that drove better).

I found myself in a familiar place which consisted in scrolling through eBay most evenings looking for a car I’d like.

Conclusion; I probably bought a bad one. I spent £900.00(circa) on fixing its various issues in 2 months of ownership. On its best day my (now wife’s) humble E53 X5 felt like a better car. Would I own another RR, hell no! Maybe I missed the point of it but it was a serious disappointment IMHO. I wouldn’t recommend one to anyone.

I’m writing this on my way to collect a BMW M3 e92.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

192 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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They are crap. I'm surprised that you are surprised by this.

popegregory

1,847 posts

154 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Following only to add I love them too and really really want one!!

Pistonheader101

2,206 posts

127 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Wow what a disappointment, I had a softspot for them.

So

28,176 posts

242 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Joe5y said:
Opening myself up here for a kicking!

Okay, so this isn’t going to be a “bucket list” car to many but it was certainly one of the cars I’ve always wanted to own since seeing it in 2002.

The 2010 Range Rover Vogue TDV8.

After many years of owning a variation of cars I found myself in the situation of needing a bigger car; out goes my beloved C350 Coupe and the hunt for a family car began.

Budget firmly set at £17,500 I found myself looking at face-lifted Range Rovers, L322’s. Plenty to choose from and many bad examples but I found what I deemed to be a good for c.£15,000; I guess I was wrong.

Ownership. Collected from Bournemouth on a Saturday full of excitement. Car looked lovely, all checked out, test drive complete, so money was paid and off I went.

First impressions; it’s big, slower than expected, sounds like a tractor (not sure what I expected from a V8 diesel) and drove not quite as well as I’d been lead to believe but maybe I was just not used to it. The infotainment was old, the stereo (H&K Logic7) was rattling and no where near as good as my 2005 e60’s, there was the notorious LR rear squeak, it just didn’t feel good.

After a few weeks and making excuses to myself I started resenting it, not looking forward to the drive to or from work and I was having ownership anxiety; something I only had in my Fiat Coupe Turbo from years gone by (that drove better).

I found myself in a familiar place which consisted in scrolling through eBay most evenings looking for a car I’d like.

Conclusion; I probably bought a bad one. I spent £900.00(circa) on fixing its various issues in 2 months of ownership. On its best day my (now wife’s) humble E53 X5 felt like a better car. Would I own another RR, hell no! Maybe I missed the point of it but it was a serious disappointment IMHO. I wouldn’t recommend one to anyone.

I’m writing this on my way to collect a BMW M3 e92.
I've got one of those and, whilst it's had plenty of other faults, I don't recognise the car you're describing. Mine is quiet, comfortable and quick (0-60 in under 8 seconds anyway). The stereo is pretty good too.

But then I have had it from new and it hasn't been abused.



AndrewCrown

2,471 posts

134 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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So said:
I've got one of those and, whilst it's had plenty of other faults, I don't recognise the car you're describing. Mine is quiet, comfortable and quick (0-60 in under 8 seconds anyway). The stereo is pretty good too.

But then I have had it from new and it hasn't been abused.
I’m with So...I don’t recognise what you are describing....I acknowledge they aren’t perfect and they do have an unpleasant habit of surprising you with irritating faults but overall they are a brilliant thing to have and I’d never be without one.

Trevor555

4,956 posts

104 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Joe5y said:
Out goes my beloved C350 Coupe and the hunt for a family car began.

I'm sure the RR did feel big, and not ever so quick, after your C350, great cars.

Hope the M3 goes well for you.

TUS373

5,007 posts

301 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Sorry to hear this. It was an honest review. It is a bad feeling to be disappointed in a car you have bought. I had the same with a Saab 93 Aero. Thought it would we great and it was terrible. Sounds like you have successfully moved on. Enjoy the BMW.

Joe5y

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1,614 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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Thank you all for the replies.

The elation of driving the C350 somewhat dumbed the experience of the RR I fear. That said the RR just wasn’t any good, such an underwhelming car.

Maybe it is just me as now I’m back in something a bit faster I’m made up. Worth noting that the M3 is exactly the same age as the RR and feels tighter, nicer and so much better put together. The stereo doesn’t vibrate, the general feel is just better.

Regretting selling this but I think it’s because I did so to find the RR. It was never the C63 I truly wanted however.



The RR. I’m sure the wheels didn’t help the experience but still disappointed.



The car to make up for the loss of the C350 and the disappointment of the RR.


So

28,176 posts

242 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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Joe5y said:
Thank you all for the replies.

The elation of driving the C350 somewhat dumbed the experience of the RR I fear. That said the RR just wasn’t any good, such an underwhelming car.

Maybe it is just me as now I’m back in something a bit faster I’m made up. Worth noting that the M3 is exactly the same age as the RR and feels tighter, nicer and so much better put together. The stereo doesn’t vibrate, the general feel is just better.

Regretting selling this but I think it’s because I did so to find the RR. It was never the C63 I truly wanted however.



The RR. I’m sure the wheels didn’t help the experience but still disappointed.



The car to make up for the loss of the C350 and the disappointment of the RR.

Looks like you bought an old example that had been barried up. Almost certainly nothing like a stock Range Rover. I am far from a and Rover fan boy, but standard Range Rovers are excellent cars.


KDC-NZ

25 posts

91 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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Was it a 3.6 or 4.4 TDV8?

Joe5y

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1,614 posts

203 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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So said:
Looks like you bought an old example that had been barried up. Almost certainly nothing like a stock Range Rover. I am far from a and Rover fan boy, but standard Range Rovers are excellent cars.
I’m not sure that’s a true reflection on the car. It had the wheels on it from new and had FJLRSH with no other modifications.

So

28,176 posts

242 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Joe5y said:
So said:
Looks like you bought an old example that had been barried up. Almost certainly nothing like a stock Range Rover. I am far from a and Rover fan boy, but standard Range Rovers are excellent cars.
I’m not sure that’s a true reflection on the car. It had the wheels on it from new and had FJLRSH with no other modifications.
I very much doubt it had those wheels from new.

Joe5y

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Monday 2nd July 2018
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KDC-NZ said:
Was it a 3.6 or 4.4 TDV8?
It was the 3.6TDV8. From the research I had done, the one with the least problems and slightly better torque delivery?

Jez m

835 posts

215 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Good choice on the M3.. looks like a lovely example! smile

ZX10R NIN

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145 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Not that they're immune to throwing up a spiteful bill as my brother can testify to (his 51k well pampered M3 Saloon is having it bottom end rebuilt) they aren't cheap to run but they do put a smile on your face.

The RR's are pretty robust & no less reliable than a Cayenne but it sounds like you didn't buy the car you wanted, you bought one you thought you needed & resented it as a result of this.

Joe5y

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Monday 2nd July 2018
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So said:
Joe5y said:
So said:
Looks like you bought an old example that had been barried up. Almost certainly nothing like a stock Range Rover. I am far from a and Rover fan boy, but standard Range Rovers are excellent cars.
I’m not sure that’s a true reflection on the car. It had the wheels on it from new and had FJLRSH with no other modifications.
I very much doubt it had those wheels from new.
Granted, but there is a receipt with the car 2 months after the purchase bill off sale for a set of Khan 22” wheels. If I was a betting man . . .

Joe5y

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Monday 2nd July 2018
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ZX10R NIN said:
Not that they're immune to throwing up a spiteful bill as my brother can testify to (his 51k well pampered M3 Saloon is having it bottom end rebuilt) they aren't cheap to run but they do put a smile on your face.

The RR's are pretty robust & no less reliable than a Cayenne but it sounds like you didn't buy the car you wanted, you bought one you thought you needed & resented it as a result of this.
Yes I doubt the M3 will prove to be any less expensive over of the course of things but it’s just a much better car and the feeling I get when I drive it is vastly better over the RR. That said, the wifes X5 feels nicer.

Sort of understand resenting it but I’ve always wanted one since my previous boss had one in 2011. Hence the bucket list comment; never meet your hero’s and all that.

Joe5y

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Monday 2nd July 2018
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Jez m said:
Good choice on the M3.. looks like a lovely example! smile
Thank you. It’s in great condition, 26k miles, extended leather, highest spec stereo with TV, rear blind, a few subtle and tasteful things done to it (exhaust) - very happy so far.

w00tman

609 posts

165 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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fair bit of grip on that C350 to be fair mate!!

I too like the idea of a RR, the high driving position, low-down grunt of a torque-fest engine, creature comforts etc - but I'd be terrified of the ownership proposition if the ones my friends have owned are typical.