MV Agusta to go into Moto 2
MV Agusta to go into Moto 2
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Birky_41

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4,658 posts

215 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Just see this - must be the trumpet engine, Ohlins suspension and Suter frame

Whats peoples thoughts?




rodericb

8,939 posts

157 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Seems odd that they buy in a frame. Is that a common thing?

dukeboy749r

3,949 posts

241 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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For some reason that paint scheme doesn't do it for me. Front mudguard just looks odd to my eyes.


chunder27

2,309 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Have Triumph got the sole contract for the Moto2 class?

I only ask because MV make a triple of their own, that could easily be built to match the spec of the Triumph motor?

I cant see Triumph allowing it, much like Honda would not allow it in Moto2 before.

But it can be done having two or even three manfacturers in a spec class, as it does in Moto3.

neelyp

1,703 posts

242 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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chunder27 said:
Have Triumph got the sole contract for the Moto2 class?

I only ask because MV make a triple of their own, that could easily be built to match the spec of the Triumph motor?

I cant see Triumph allowing it, much like Honda would not allow it in Moto2 before.

But it can be done having two or even three manfacturers in a spec class, as it does in Moto3.
It's nothing to do with Triumph or Honda allowing it, the specs for the class dictate a single engine supplier and I believe the motors are sealed, the teams can really only alter airbox and exhaust.

super7

2,275 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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As a long standing MV Owner having had an F4, F3 and now a Brutale Dragster I can't get my head around this?

Why would MV wan't to put their name on a bike with a tripple from what must be their most direct competitor in the market?

We know MV's Tripple is a very good one, it's been running in World Supersport for the last few years in the F3 and having won many races? And why use someone else's frame? I know KTM are in Moto2 running the current Honda engine, but they have a history of using other manufacturers engines in their road bikes and I believe (might be wrong) use their own chassis?

This, to me, is a bad move. Go back and do WSB / WSS properly and leave Moto2 to the privateer teams!!!

Edited to add..... where's the Suter bit from? Not in the official MV website article... that just says MV and CRC, which implies it's there own frame!!



Edited by super7 on Thursday 7th June 13:16

alistair1234

1,136 posts

177 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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super7 said:
As a long standing MV Owner having had an F4, F3 and now a Brutale Dragster I can't get my head around this?

Why would MV wan't to put their name on a bike with a tripple from what must be their most direct competitor in the market?

We know MV's Tripple is a very good one, it's been running in World Supersport for the last few years in the F3 and having won many races? And why use someone else's frame? I know KTM are in Moto2 running the current Honda engine, but they have a history of using other manufacturers engines in their road bikes and I believe (might be wrong) use their own chassis?

This, to me, is a bad move. Go back and do WSB / WSS properly and leave Moto2 to the privateer teams!!!

Edited to add..... where's the Suter bit from? Not in the official MV website article... that just says MV and CRC, which implies it's there own frame!!



Edited by super7 on Thursday 7th June 13:16
Its not even close to being worthwhile developing a frame for just 2 bikes in Moto2. The MV thing is just a Sponsorship, like Alfa Romeo in F1

chunder27

2,309 posts

239 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Seems daft that you can have a bike that is almost the same but not enter.

But KTM have done it too, so perhaps they feel the marketing push they gain from it is worth them building a bike with a Triumph engine it and racing!


Zarco

21,160 posts

240 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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It's not a Triumph bike in Moto2 though. Just the engine in a chassis from Suter/Kalex etc.

Spec engine with choice of chassis.

Birky_41

Original Poster:

4,658 posts

215 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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super7 said:
This, to me, is a bad move. Go back and do WSB / WSS properly and leave Moto2 to the privateer teams!!!

Edited to add..... where's the Suter bit from? Not in the official MV website article... that just says MV and CRC, which implies it's there own frame!!



Edited by super7 on Thursday 7th June 13:16
Possibly I've heard that bit wrong then. Still early days so I'm sure more will come out soon

pitlane

301 posts

212 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Birky_41 said:
super7 said:
This, to me, is a bad move. Go back and do WSB / WSS properly and leave Moto2 to the privateer teams!!!

Edited to add..... where's the Suter bit from? Not in the official MV website article... that just says MV and CRC, which implies it's there own frame!!



Edited by super7 on Thursday 7th June 13:16
Possibly I've heard that bit wrong then. Still early days so I'm sure more will come out soon
I've been at circuit so haven't had time to catch up on the news, but the rendering certainly shows a bespoke MV style frame. Perhaps Suter were mentioned as fabricating it? People would be surprised at some of the fabricating out work that some marques do for their chassis wink

2ndclasscitizen

503 posts

148 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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pitlane said:
Birky_41 said:
super7 said:
This, to me, is a bad move. Go back and do WSB / WSS properly and leave Moto2 to the privateer teams!!!

Edited to add..... where's the Suter bit from? Not in the official MV website article... that just says MV and CRC, which implies it's there own frame!!



Edited by super7 on Thursday 7th June 13:16
Possibly I've heard that bit wrong then. Still early days so I'm sure more will come out soon
I've been at circuit so haven't had time to catch up on the news, but the rendering certainly shows a bespoke MV style frame. Perhaps Suter were mentioned as fabricating it? People would be surprised at some of the fabricating out work that some marques do for their chassis wink
It's an MV designed and built frame. They're building them for Forward Racing to run, MV aren't doing their own team. Forward are runing Suter chassis' at the moment, that's probably where the confusion has come from.

Baldchap

9,637 posts

123 months

Saturday 9th June 2018
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They'll have bought in a frame and borrowed an engine because all the dealers shut down and they don't want to go to bd Barnsley from the Midlands to have them serviced after races (like I have to, grumble grumble)...

Birky_41

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4,658 posts

215 months

Saturday 9th June 2018
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Baldchap said:
They'll have bought in a frame and borrowed an engine because all the dealers shut down and they don't want to go to bd Barnsley from the Midlands to have them serviced after races (like I have to, grumble grumble)...
Haha I shouldnt laugh but its one of the reasons I sold mine! 3750 mile service intervals and over 500 mile round trip had me done by the time I was at 10k on the bike so I got rid