Out of date lager?
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BRISTOL86

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Thursday 7th June 2018
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Bought a 5L mini keg a couple of weeks ago for a party coming up in a couple of weeks time and just realised it is out of date. Must have literally been around the day I bought it when it expired which isn’t cool.

It’ll be a month after the date by the time it’s used. Will it be safe to serve? I’m normally pretty blasé about dates on stuff but I really don’t want this party to be known as ‘that time everyone got sick off the out of date beer and chundered all over the new carpet’.

RicksAlfas

14,355 posts

270 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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I wouldn't worry for a month. I thought it was going to be years out!

zedx19

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166 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Best before or use by on the keg?

Best before = It'll be fine, but will have lost flavour or gone flat.
Use by = It'll not be fine and needs binning.

alfaman

6,416 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Must have been very old when you bought it.

Assuming it has not been unopened - and that it has been stored somewhere reasonably cool it should be fine (rather than left somewhere exposed to heat or sun )

(I used to work for a major UK Brewer)

Note: shelf life on canned and bottled beer is usually 12 months from packaging date it is safe beyond that ..

(Keg and cask beer in pubs has a much shorter shelf life)

Note - the flavor of packaged beer can deteriorate slightly even at around 6 months after packaging ... as dissolved O2 levels increase slightly over time.


C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

171 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Get it drunk, it'll be fine.

Wonder if those mini-kegs have a shorter shelf life than other beer? Stuff in bottles or cans is usually good for several years.

Big E 118

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195 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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It will be fine. Is it a best before or use by date? Usually it will be a best before date on lager and although the flavour will deteriorate slowly over a long period of time it won't do you any harm. The deterioration of lager flavours early on is mainly to do with UV light but if you have a keg it won't matter, bottles than sit in the sun will go pretty horrid quite quickly.

I used to work in brewing many years ago and I've tasted lager a year after best before dates and although it doesn't taste it's best it is harmless.

alfaman

6,416 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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You can always open it a day or 2 before your party and try it - if it tastes a bit flat or stale ... gives you time to get some more

captain_cynic

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121 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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BRISTOL86 said:
Bought a 5L mini keg a couple of weeks ago for a party coming up in a couple of weeks time and just realised it is out of date. Must have literally been around the day I bought it when it expired which isn’t cool.

It’ll be a month after the date by the time it’s used. Will it be safe to serve? I’m normally pretty blasé about dates on stuff but I really don’t want this party to be known as ‘that time everyone got sick off the out of date beer and chundered all over the new carpet’.
How out of date is it?

Its lager, it doesn't spoil that quickly as it's brewed to be preserved. I think the biggest issue is that it might be flat (nitrogen/CO2 cylinder may have lost pressure).

Maybe save this keg for personal consumption and get another one for the party though, like you I'm happy to risk it myself but not to risk others (or others chundering on the shagpile).

Fun Fact: the word "lager" came from the German word "Lagerbier" which is "beer brewed for storing" as "lager" is German for storehouse (going to guess its where we got larder from). I drink and I know things.

Big E 118

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195 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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alfaman said:
(I used to work for a major UK Brewer)
Who did you work for Alfaman?

I was with Anheuser Busch for some time, although I worked in the financial side I did some extra work in the brewing side

untakenname

5,296 posts

218 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Best bet would be to open it once the party has been going on for a while, that way people will be drunk and won't notice if it is slightly off or flat.

Don't like getting Kegs as people will generally pull a pint then drink half of it and put it down then forget about it and pull another, the next morning you'll find dozens of half empty glasses leftover.

BRISTOL86

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1,097 posts

131 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Thanks all.

Just found proof that I bought it on 25th May, 5 days AFTER its BBE. I’ll just take it back in that case!

WinstonWolf

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265 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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untakenname said:
Best bet would be to open it once the party has been going on for a while, that way people will be drunk and won't notice if it is slightly off or flat.

Don't like getting Kegs as people will generally pull a pint then drink half of it and put it down then forget about it and pull another, the next morning you'll find dozens of half empty glasses leftover.
This! That's genius biggrin

I've drank it 6 months after the best before date, it was lacklustre but I wouldn't notice by the fourth pint beer

Sheepshanks

39,860 posts

145 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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I thought the issue with cans is that the plastic coating on the inner surface deteriorates?

JuniorD

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249 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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untakenname said:
Best bet would be to open it once the party has been going on for a while, that way people will be drunk and won't notice if it is slightly off or flat.
Just like the wedding at Cana, before the J-man turned up with a dose of his magic "water" thumbup

alfaman

6,416 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Big E 118 said:
alfaman said:
(I used to work for a major UK Brewer)
Who did you work for Alfaman?

I was with Anheuser Busch for some time, although I worked in the financial side I did some extra work in the brewing side
Was with whitbread for 11 years : brewing business then corporate / retail. Jobs were planning/ strategy then into finance. Best company I’ve ever worked with.

alfaman

6,416 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Sheepshanks said:
I thought the issue with cans is that the plastic coating on the inner surface deteriorates?
Not heard about that ... AFAIK the beer deteriorated over time especially if the nitrogen capping has a higher than expected O2 content ... basically cans and bottles are capped off with nitrogen to flush the air out ... it’s the O2 which slowly gets into the beer and spoils the flavor . Inert gas keeps the beer fresh . As well as pasteurization and filtration obviously

AFAIK - it’s nitrogen used for capping .. CO2 is added into the beer for sparkling. Don’t think used to top it off but not 100% sure

Edited by alfaman on Thursday 7th June 18:08

alfaman

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Thursday 7th June 2018
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Big E 118 said:
alfaman said:
(I used to work for a major UK Brewer)
Who did you work for Alfaman?

I was with Anheuser Busch for some time, although I worked in the financial side I did some extra work in the brewing side
We’re you based at the Budweiser brewery near mortlake?

Nickyboy

6,808 posts

260 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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Just drink it, it won't taste any different. A year past the date i could understand. It's not illegal to sell it after it's best before either although it would be bad customer service for them not to exchange it. Half of my cupboard is out of date, some of it by years, nothing tastes any different.

Ambient food/drink will always have a best before while fresh food/drink will have a use by

Big E 118

2,468 posts

195 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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alfaman said:
We’re you based at the Budweiser brewery near mortlake?
Yes, between there and the Richmond office. The days of a free beer allowance and a "beer expenses" when out in the evening were good days! biggrin


Truckosaurus

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310 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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I found a 5yr out of date can of John Smiths Smooth in my mum's garage. Tasted no worse than brand new John Smiths Smooth.