Smart Brake Module
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bilhound

Original Poster:

79 posts

117 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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https://www.safer-turn.com/smart-brake-module/

I can't help thinking this is adding to danger behind rather than removing it, especially in group riding. Will you not be fooled into thinking the biker in front is braking sharply rather than just slowing, starting a chain reaction?

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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It does seem to be the answer to a question nobody has asked!

black-k1

12,810 posts

260 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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If there is someone behind who might be at risk of running into you when you start to slow, don't you ensure you apply a little brake to light the brake light, even when ideally you'd just use engine braking?

As said above, a solution looking for a problem.

black-k1

12,810 posts

260 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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bilhound said:
https://www.safer-turn.com/smart-brake-module/

I can't help thinking this is adding to danger behind rather than removing it, especially in group riding. Will you not be fooled into thinking the biker in front is braking sharply rather than just slowing, starting a chain reaction?
If you're concerned about a chain reaction when group riding then your group are definitely travelling too close and should be more worried about possible situations where the one at the front really does need to brake suddenly and hard. There should always be enough space for the one behind to see the brake light and make a judgment as to how they need to react.

bilhound

Original Poster:

79 posts

117 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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black-k1 said:
If you're concerned about a chain reaction when group riding then your group are definitely travelling too close and should be more worried about possible situations where the one at the front really does need to brake suddenly and hard. There should always be enough space for the one behind to see the brake light and make a judgment as to how they need to react.
I'm concerned about chain reactions when groups are riding - not when I'm riding in a group. Only a fool and all that.....

bilhound

Original Poster:

79 posts

117 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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black-k1 said:
If there is someone behind who might be at risk of running into you when you start to slow, don't you ensure you apply a little brake to light the brake light, even when ideally you'd just use engine braking?

As said above, a solution looking for a problem.
Exactly - manual addition is a skill that should always be employed (motorways + traffic for example). The same company also do automatic signal cancellation, not sure how useful that is either - it's irritating enough on a car having to hold the indicator stalk to correct the self-cancel, would be even more difficult on a bike!

sjtscott

4,215 posts

262 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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I guess its a bit like their auto cancelling indicator module too, sure we've all left them on but its generally a newbie thing. Its somehow supposed to know you didn't mean to leave it on and cancel it through some algorithum. I've saved myself a ton of money by simply remembering for more than 20 years to press the cancel myself lol

sjtscott

4,215 posts

262 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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bilhound said:
The same company also do automatic signal cancellation, not sure how useful that is either - it's irritating enough on a car having to hold the indicator stalk to correct the self-cancel, would be even more difficult on a bike!
Just noticed your post we agree! wink

bogie

17,105 posts

303 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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I think its a solution looking for a problem too ....imagine these things fitted to cars on the motorway .. ...I prefer to leave a gap and just ease off the throttle to maintain distance to vehicle in front. With these brake light things flicking on/off all the time there would be loads of unnecessary panic braking going on in queues of cars, creating even more of the caterpillar effect you see in heavy traffic..

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

286 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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sjtscott said:
bilhound said:
The same company also do automatic signal cancellation, not sure how useful that is either - it's irritating enough on a car having to hold the indicator stalk to correct the self-cancel, would be even more difficult on a bike!
Just noticed your post we agree! wink
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