Hayabusa v K1300S
Discussion
Sorry for starting another what bike thread...
I was thinking of getting a K1300S Motorsport. I thought I had found one but a number of the K1300S I have looked at had problems with corrosion to the final drive. Seems endemic and BMW not always fixing under warranty. Putting me off a bit.
As an alternative I have seen and ridden a Hayabusa at one of my local dealers.
I like the look of the BMW and attracted to the low maintenance of the shaft drive. However to ride the Hayabusa was better.
Anyone with experience of them both?
I was thinking of getting a K1300S Motorsport. I thought I had found one but a number of the K1300S I have looked at had problems with corrosion to the final drive. Seems endemic and BMW not always fixing under warranty. Putting me off a bit.
As an alternative I have seen and ridden a Hayabusa at one of my local dealers.
I like the look of the BMW and attracted to the low maintenance of the shaft drive. However to ride the Hayabusa was better.
Anyone with experience of them both?
I've owned both.
Hayabusa was faster but I did like the BMW more. Felt better for touring but the hayabusa was more 'sporty', if you can call such a big bus sporty!
I wouldn't stress over paint on the final drive! You'll be very lucky to get BMW to pay as the 13S isn't a new bike anymore is it?
You could get it painted/powder coated for a couole of hundred quid at the most.
Hayabusa was faster but I did like the BMW more. Felt better for touring but the hayabusa was more 'sporty', if you can call such a big bus sporty!
I wouldn't stress over paint on the final drive! You'll be very lucky to get BMW to pay as the 13S isn't a new bike anymore is it?
You could get it painted/powder coated for a couole of hundred quid at the most.
While I'm sure the Hayabusa is a great bike (although I never got the looks) and I can't comment on direct comparison between the two, I would point to the statistics from the Old Gits trips over the last 20 years:
While the K1300S has got some issues (final drive paint being one of them) there must be a very good reason why so many motorcyclists, many of whom don't know each other other than through the Old Gits trips once a year, have been drawn so consistently to the K1300S
While the K1300S has got some issues (final drive paint being one of them) there must be a very good reason why so many motorcyclists, many of whom don't know each other other than through the Old Gits trips once a year, have been drawn so consistently to the K1300S
Put a deposit on a K1300S on Saturday.
Currently splitting my commuting across 4 bikes: 929 blade (a dose of insanity), VFR800 (1998, and the main commuter bike), Blackbird (my dad's that i use occasionally) and NTV650 (the old one that makes me smile).
I quite like having a choice depending on how i'm feeling. It's a long commute so mixing things up a bit helps with boredom.
The K1300 just felt lovely as soon as i sat on it. Very, very comfy neutral position. Close to the VFR but with a much better seat.
The engine has more anger and pulls harder than the Blackbird. The VFR struggles for grunt on the A1 when trying to mix it with the 330d and S4 brigade.
Handling was better than the Blackbird, which steers like an oil tanker (partly due to the front tyre being past its best).
The brakes were exceptional
And i liked the toys. The ESA was brilliant giving it a ride that's in another league over any of the other bikes.
I did consider a hayabusa, but the riding position is almost exactly the same as the blackbird, which i find slightly uncomfortable after an hour in the seat. Plus it's more sporty, and overlaps the 929 too much.
Selling the NTV, retiring the VFR which will get a winter strip down, fork rebuild, replaced rear shock, and just used for the odd ride, handing over the main commuting duties to the K13. 929 will stay as it has front end feel that the K13 can't hope to match, plus it's still practical enough for the odd commute for fun.
Sadly having to sell my mint ZX9 C2 to raise cash. Blub...sniff.
Currently splitting my commuting across 4 bikes: 929 blade (a dose of insanity), VFR800 (1998, and the main commuter bike), Blackbird (my dad's that i use occasionally) and NTV650 (the old one that makes me smile).
I quite like having a choice depending on how i'm feeling. It's a long commute so mixing things up a bit helps with boredom.
The K1300 just felt lovely as soon as i sat on it. Very, very comfy neutral position. Close to the VFR but with a much better seat.
The engine has more anger and pulls harder than the Blackbird. The VFR struggles for grunt on the A1 when trying to mix it with the 330d and S4 brigade.
Handling was better than the Blackbird, which steers like an oil tanker (partly due to the front tyre being past its best).
The brakes were exceptional
And i liked the toys. The ESA was brilliant giving it a ride that's in another league over any of the other bikes.
I did consider a hayabusa, but the riding position is almost exactly the same as the blackbird, which i find slightly uncomfortable after an hour in the seat. Plus it's more sporty, and overlaps the 929 too much.
Selling the NTV, retiring the VFR which will get a winter strip down, fork rebuild, replaced rear shock, and just used for the odd ride, handing over the main commuting duties to the K13. 929 will stay as it has front end feel that the K13 can't hope to match, plus it's still practical enough for the odd commute for fun.
Sadly having to sell my mint ZX9 C2 to raise cash. Blub...sniff.
Esceptico said:
Sorry for starting another what bike thread...
I was thinking of getting a K1300S Motorsport. I thought I had found one but a number of the K1300S I have looked at had problems with corrosion to the final drive. Seems endemic and BMW not always fixing under warranty. Putting me off a bit.
As an alternative I have seen and ridden a Hayabusa at one of my local dealers.
I like the look of the BMW and attracted to the low maintenance of the shaft drive. However to ride the Hayabusa was better.
Anyone with experience of them both?
Get a K1300S as an approved used bike from BMW. The Motorsport colours look sexual, theyre comfortable to ride at most speeds, still bloody fast, you might get one with the HP light weight wheels, its standard with ESA, heated grips, TPMS and panniers and you wont have the dramas associated with chain & sprockets. For fast touring I would say its pick of the bunch. As an approved used bike, you'll get two years BMW warranty on it too. The corrosion issue on the final drive is an issue no doubt, but you wont have to look that hard to find one without it. Bugger all chance of getting BMW to pay for it on a s/h bike, though I have had heard of them coming good on a new one. Motorsport model should also have a an Akro can as standard I think....I was thinking of getting a K1300S Motorsport. I thought I had found one but a number of the K1300S I have looked at had problems with corrosion to the final drive. Seems endemic and BMW not always fixing under warranty. Putting me off a bit.
As an alternative I have seen and ridden a Hayabusa at one of my local dealers.
I like the look of the BMW and attracted to the low maintenance of the shaft drive. However to ride the Hayabusa was better.
Anyone with experience of them both?
Busa is an epic thing but I personally find them uncomfortable (I'm 6'1 and 83kgs for reference) and they have a fraction of gadgets or touring practicality. They are a bit of a one-trick pony in my opinion. Albeit a really f
king good trick. Been lucky enough to put a fair few miles on both. As most suggest the K1300S is an all round better bike really, only lacking in comparrison by not having the top end whack and it doesn't have the name.
I wouldn't worry too much about the flacky paint on the driveshaft. I have a K1300R which I bought with a bit of flaky paint, I ride it year round and just keep on top of it with ACF-50. It certainly han't got any worse. Also, quite a bit of paint flakes off the lower part of the engine - easier to see on the naked R.
I wouldn't worry too much about the flacky paint on the driveshaft. I have a K1300R which I bought with a bit of flaky paint, I ride it year round and just keep on top of it with ACF-50. It certainly han't got any worse. Also, quite a bit of paint flakes off the lower part of the engine - easier to see on the naked R.
black-k1 said:
While I'm sure the Hayabusa is a great bike (although I never got the looks) and I can't comment on direct comparison between the two, I would point to the statistics from the Old Gits trips over the last 20 years:
While the K1300S has got some issues (final drive paint being one of them) there must be a very good reason why so many motorcyclists, many of whom don't know each other other than through the Old Gits trips once a year, have been drawn so consistently to the K1300S
Oh my science.While the K1300S has got some issues (final drive paint being one of them) there must be a very good reason why so many motorcyclists, many of whom don't know each other other than through the Old Gits trips once a year, have been drawn so consistently to the K1300S
There could, and probably are, several reasons for the trend in your graph. None of them need to be because the Hayabusa is inferior at anything (although I suspect it is).
Hi OP
One of my riding buddies has a K1300S and has probably done 20k miles on it without any problem and thinks it's the best thing ever for fast scratching combined with long-distance.
Alternatively, I ride a Honda VFR1200 and think the two bikes are quite comparable on performance so you might want to try the vfr.
VFR1200's are not usually popular and as a result I think they are an absolute bargain as a used bike.
One of my riding buddies has a K1300S and has probably done 20k miles on it without any problem and thinks it's the best thing ever for fast scratching combined with long-distance.
Alternatively, I ride a Honda VFR1200 and think the two bikes are quite comparable on performance so you might want to try the vfr.
VFR1200's are not usually popular and as a result I think they are an absolute bargain as a used bike.
Edited by A993LAD on Tuesday 12th June 13:08
Prof Prolapse said:
Out of curiosity, how many miles do you get to a tank on the VFR1200?
Ah yes, the Achilles heel of the vfr 1200 - I generally get between 130 and 140 miles before a warning light starts flashing.But I do tend to ride it like I stole it so I'm sure others will get better tank range (and also be more likely to keep their licence)
Esceptico said:
Dealer with the Hayabusa just got back to me. I was asking about panniers but apparently not possible. Bit of a deal breaker.
VFR1200 a good shout. Found a very good value example. But seems way heavier than the already heavy K1300S.
H2SX a bit new.
Think I will try the BMW.
As mentioned above, try the ZZR1400 too. It will take panniers. When I was deciding it came a very close second to the K1300S.VFR1200 a good shout. Found a very good value example. But seems way heavier than the already heavy K1300S.
H2SX a bit new.
Think I will try the BMW.
PTF said:
Put a deposit on a K1300S on Saturday.
Currently splitting my commuting across 4 bikes: 929 blade (a dose of insanity), VFR800 (1998, and the main commuter bike), Blackbird (my dad's that i use occasionally) and NTV650 (the old one that makes me smile).
I quite like having a choice depending on how i'm feeling. It's a long commute so mixing things up a bit helps with boredom.
The K1300 just felt lovely as soon as i sat on it. Very, very comfy neutral position. Close to the VFR but with a much better seat.
The engine has more anger and pulls harder than the Blackbird. The VFR struggles for grunt on the A1 when trying to mix it with the 330d and S4 brigade.
Handling was better than the Blackbird, which steers like an oil tanker (partly due to the front tyre being past its best).
The brakes were exceptional
And i liked the toys. The ESA was brilliant giving it a ride that's in another league over any of the other bikes.
I did consider a hayabusa, but the riding position is almost exactly the same as the blackbird, which i find slightly uncomfortable after an hour in the seat. Plus it's more sporty, and overlaps the 929 too much.
Selling the NTV, retiring the VFR which will get a winter strip down, fork rebuild, replaced rear shock, and just used for the odd ride, handing over the main commuting duties to the K13. 929 will stay as it has front end feel that the K13 can't hope to match, plus it's still practical enough for the odd commute for fun.
Sadly having to sell my mint ZX9 C2 to raise cash. Blub...sniff.
You should check out www.eurokclub.bike if you've not already found it. It's a really good source of information on the K1300S and they'll happily tell you about all the problems as well as all the benefits the bike has.Currently splitting my commuting across 4 bikes: 929 blade (a dose of insanity), VFR800 (1998, and the main commuter bike), Blackbird (my dad's that i use occasionally) and NTV650 (the old one that makes me smile).
I quite like having a choice depending on how i'm feeling. It's a long commute so mixing things up a bit helps with boredom.
The K1300 just felt lovely as soon as i sat on it. Very, very comfy neutral position. Close to the VFR but with a much better seat.
The engine has more anger and pulls harder than the Blackbird. The VFR struggles for grunt on the A1 when trying to mix it with the 330d and S4 brigade.
Handling was better than the Blackbird, which steers like an oil tanker (partly due to the front tyre being past its best).
The brakes were exceptional
And i liked the toys. The ESA was brilliant giving it a ride that's in another league over any of the other bikes.
I did consider a hayabusa, but the riding position is almost exactly the same as the blackbird, which i find slightly uncomfortable after an hour in the seat. Plus it's more sporty, and overlaps the 929 too much.
Selling the NTV, retiring the VFR which will get a winter strip down, fork rebuild, replaced rear shock, and just used for the odd ride, handing over the main commuting duties to the K13. 929 will stay as it has front end feel that the K13 can't hope to match, plus it's still practical enough for the odd commute for fun.
Sadly having to sell my mint ZX9 C2 to raise cash. Blub...sniff.
Congratulations on the new bike!
black-k1 said:
As mentioned above, try the ZZR1400 too. It will take panniers. When I was deciding it came a very close second to the K1300S.
You do end up having a scruffy looking givvi pannier rack ruining the looks though. 47,000 faultless miles last year in 11 months on a new ZZR1400, at 6ft and 17 stone it was perfect for me. Loved every mile on it, for me the k1300S is a close second to the ZZR. I loved the noise, pops and bangs from the two Akropovic cans you get on the Performence SE model! I have the Akropovic on the K1300R, a nice noise, but tame compared to the Kwaker
K1300S or ZZR - you be over the moon with either.
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