Pavement parking to be banned in Scotland

[pavarotti1980]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-po...

https://www.scotsman.com/news/pavement-parking-to-...

Is this a good or bad thing?

Edited by pavarotti1980 on Tuesday 12th June 13:13

[mp3manager]

Why do you even need to ask that question?

[pavarotti1980]

mp3manager said:

Why do you even need to ask that question?

Because no doubt it will be England & Wales bound.

If nobody asked questions then PH forum would be a bit pointless wouldnt it?

[mp3manager]

I guess parking on pavements and blocking dropped kerbs and making life difficult for wheelchair users, is considered a good thing then?

[CzechItOut]

What is the difference between what they are proposing in Scotland and what is already stated in the Highway Code?

[pavarotti1980]

mp3manager said:

I guess parking on pavements and blocking dropped kerbs and making life difficult for wheelchair users, is considered a good thing then?

Private land so not applicable. Provision of parking is pretty poor generally by LA's to facilitate moving everyone from pavements to somewhere else

[RedWhiteMonkey]

CzechItOut said:

What is the difference between what they are proposing in Scotland and what is already stated in the Highway Code?

Presumably what is written in the Highway Code about the matter is purely advisory and not legally enforceable.

[pavarotti1980]

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Presumably what is written in the Highway Code about the matter is purely advisory and not legally enforceable.

It says DO NOT, but must need some legislation for the councils to milk it for revenue generation

[PAULJ5555]

Wait for the emergency services to start moaning as they cant get their big vehicles down the road.

[pavarotti1980]

PAULJ5555 said:

Wait for the emergency services to start moaning as they cant get their big vehicles down the road.

it will mean a fine for parking on the pavement and also a one for blocking the road.

Whereabouts do they suggest people park vehicles? No doubt they will say increase size of drives, thus increasing incidences of flooding as no run off for rain water bla bla bla

[anonymous-user]

That story appears to be over 2 years old?

[RedWhiteMonkey]

pavarotti1980 said:

RedWhiteMonkey said:

Presumably what is written in the Highway Code about the matter is purely advisory and not legally enforceable.

It says DO NOT, but must need some legislation for the councils to milk it for revenue generation

Precisely, there is a difference between advisory and legally enforceable. Lots of what is in the Highway Code is solely advisory and not backed up by any legislation.

[s2kjock]

A good thing in my view - I commute by foot about 3-4 miles a day and I not infrequently have to take to the road because someone is too lazy to park 20-30 yards away in a proper space, instead obstructing the pavement to an extent that pushchairs or wheelchairs, and often just a single fit pedestrian, can't pass.

I presume the parking attendants will be be able to enforce this (?)

[mp3manager]

pavarotti1980 said:

Whereabouts do they suggest people park vehicles?

Not on pavements, where they not only block pedestrians but people's doorways.

[pavarotti1980]

Sten. said:

That story appears to be over 2 years old?

I have added the link from this week on now which i forgot before

[pavarotti1980]

mp3manager said:

Not on pavements, where they not only block pedestrians but people's doorways.

Thats handy while he fixed the pubs problems.

But if no drive space and not allowed on pavement or block highway there is little option for some

[Wacky Racer]

In an ideal world, nobody would park slightly on a pavement, nor ride a pushbike on one, but it's not an ideal world unfortunately.

[gazza285]

pavarotti1980 said:

Whereabouts do they suggest people park vehicles?

Somewhere where it is not causing a hazard or obstruction perhaps. Owning a vehicle does not mean that someone else has to provide a parking space for it.

[andye30m3]

I tend to think its a good thing, not that it will really be enforced outside of big towns, the parking around the local small supermarket in my town is a piss take despite there being 2 free carparks within a minutes walk

However I can see it causing problems in areas where parking is a problem, I can think of a number of small residential streets with terrace type housing where cars will park slightly on the pavement either side of the road to allow cars to be parked on both sides (sure in London I've even seen road markings to do this) by banning parking on the pavement your going to effectively 1/2 the available space with no solution for where the others will park.

[vonhosen]

In London you can't park on footways/verges etc without signage markings expressly permitting it.
It's generally the reverse of that elsewhere. ie You can, providing it's not deemed to amount to another offence like unnecessary obstruction or there is no signage markings expressly prohibiting parking on it.

As for the more general 'but if I can't park on the footway I'll be blocking the road'.
The roads are not provided for parking on, save where markings exist for that purpose, they are for passage on.
If stopping/parking on them is in contravention of any signage/markings, or in the absence of such signage/markings in doing so you are causing an unnecessary obstruction that is an offence. 'I haven't got anywhere available to park' isn't a defence.