RE: Alfa Romeo Brera: PH Used Buying Guide
RE: Alfa Romeo Brera: PH Used Buying Guide
Thursday 14th June 2018

Alfa Romeo Brera: PH Used Buying Guide

Correctly specced, the Brera can be excellent; here's what you need to know before taking the plunge...



When talk turns to concept cars that made it into production relatively unscathed, the usual candidates are the Audi TT and Porsche Boxster. Yet the Alfa Romeo Brera arrived in 2005 with few exterior visual changes from the 2002 concept other than normal doors in place of the show car's scissor items.

The Brera caused quite a stir thanks to its looks, promising all of the Alfa pizzazz with seating for four. It might have been a bit later to the coupe market than the likes of the Mazda RX-8 and TT, but you couldn't fault its style. It was also keenly priced from a shade under £25,000 for the entry-point 2.2-litre petrol engine with 185hp.

Keener drivers would be more drawn to the 3.2-litre V6 version that boasted 260hp and four-wheel drive as standard. A 0-60mph time of 6.8 seconds wasn't quite as exciting as the appearance of the car or the noise from under the bonnet, but there was some compensation in the Brera being better built than previous Alfas. While some will scoff that isn't very hard to achieve, specialists reckon the Brera is very durable.


Recognising the need to attract company car drivers, Alfa Romeo also offered its new coupe with a turbodiesel engine, though it couldn't help itself but fit the five-cylinder 2.4-litre JTD unit. With 200hp and 295lb ft of torque, it was brisk rather than outright fast, though 41.5mpg combined economy was decidedly average next to a BMW 320d coupe.

To answer some complaints about the handling being too staid, Alfa Romeo turned to Prodrive for help and launched the S versions in 2008. With lighter, stiffer suspension, sports exhaust and 19-inch alloy wheels as standard, it turned the Brera into the car it should have been from launch. These models remain the most sought after now.

2010 rung the changes for the Brera range when Alfa introduced a front-wheel drive V6 model. However, the big news lay elsewhere with the arrival of the 1750 TBi engine. It came with 200hp, direct injection and a turbo to take the Brera from 0-60mph in 7.5 seconds and without the nose-heavy handling of the V6. It could even turn in an average of 34.9mpg to make it the best of the bunch then and now.


At the same time, the 2.4 diesel was dropped in favour of the 2.0-litre JTD M with 170hp and 266lb ft of torque, which was more than the V6 could muster. The 51.4mpg fuel economy made the Brera much more appealing as an everyday prospect, while in-gear performance was also strong enough to live with the sporty looks.

The 2.4-litre turbodiesel is the least desirable Brera in today's market and you can find reasonable examples from £3,000. Following that is the 2.2-litre petrol that starts at around £3,500, while a well cared for V6 is likely to cost from £6,000. Finding a 1750 TBi or 2.0 JTD M will be your biggest problem as few were sold and owners now tend to hang on to them. Expect to pay from £6,000 for either.

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Alfa Romeo Brera: Common Problems and Faults

Bodywork and interior

Cars painted red seem more prone to stone chips than other hues, so inspect the bonnet, front bumper and wings.

Look for signs of rust on the front subframe where the undertray sits close to it.

Electric windows can become erratic, but can be reset by holding the button for 10 seconds, winding the window up and then holding the button for another 10 seconds.Rear seats are cramped, but later cars have front seats with a reprofiled back to give more space for rear occupants' knees.

Dash trim is easily scratched by other keys on the ignition key's fob.

Engine and transmission

Diesel engine has a cambelt that Alfa says should be changed at 90,000 miles, However, the water pump can seize before that, so best to change belt and pump at 60,000 miles.

Timing chains in the petrol engines can stretch, so budget between £750 and £1,000 for a replacement.

Diesel engine's inlet manifold valve cans stick.

The oil filter on the 2.2 JTS engine can become clogged with sludge that causes it to collapse. Specialists recommend changing the filter at 12,000-mile intervals.

Bearings fail in the petrol cars' GM-sourced manual gearbox.

Suspension and steering

Steering racks fail, so check front tyres for uneven wear and listen for knocks from the front end. These symptoms could also point to worn ball joints or front wishbones bushes, which are a cheaper and easier fix.

Broken springs are common. Rear wheel lower hub bushes wear, so look for uneven tread wear on the tyres.

Wheels, tyres and brakes

Check for uneven tyre wear that points to worn suspension bushes. A full geometry set-up is worthwhile on any Brera you buy.

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Specification: Alfa Romeo Brera
Engine 1,742/2,198/3,195/1,956/2,387cc 4/5 inline/V6
Transmission 6-speed man/auto
Power (hp) 200/185/260/170/200@5,000/6,500
/6,200/4,000/4,000rpm
Torque (lb ft) 236/170/237/266/295@1,400/4,500
/4,500/1,750/2,000rpm
MPG 34.9/30.1/24.6/51.4/41.5
CO2 189/218/266/145/197g/km
Price new: from £24,995
Price now: £3,000 upwards
Author
Discussion

Paddy78

Original Poster:

208 posts

166 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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I lusted after one of these before I bought my 350Z about 7 years ago. They seemed good value for money and look absolutely stunning. I couldn't get over how slow the V6 seemed though considering that is wasn't any more efficient or cheaper than the alternatives. I know that 0-60 times are not what this car is about, but to me a V6 coupe should have a bit more shove.

GTEYE

2,329 posts

230 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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As I recall, the problem with the Brera and the Spider was weight - they were too heavy which blunted the performance, and ecomomy.

A pity, as a decently specified Spider is still a stunning looking car, more so than the Brera IMHO, which always looked a bit bulky from the rear 3/4 angle.

court

1,491 posts

236 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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Shame the TBi is so rare as it turned up late in the model cycle. HML puts the amount at 65 Breras and 38 Spiders.

JMF894

6,333 posts

175 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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Lovely looks, too much weight. I would also suggest they are more a 2+2 than a 4 seater!

RicksAlfas

14,207 posts

264 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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I had an early 2.4. Silver with blue and tobacco leather. Thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a real grand tourer - comfortable and long legged. It was not a pointy, darty sportscar, but it never set out to be one.

One very peculiar problem I had with it - there had to be at least one didn't there?! The exhausts got unbelievably hot when they did a DPF regeneration and it melted the plastic valance under the tailpipes. I had an interesting discussion with Alfa who "weren't sure if it was a warranty job". biggrin

spikyone

1,826 posts

120 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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Always thought they look awkward, the design is a bit disjointed to put it kindly and that nose is too aggressive to be considered pretty in the traditional Alfa sense. The GT was far better looking and I'd take one of those every time.

As with the Scirocco, it's stretching the description of a coupe when in truth it's a 2-box hatchback with a slightly lower roofline. They should've made it a 2-seater like the Spider, and styled it as a proper coupe.

Pistachio

1,116 posts

210 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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You didn't mention the Prodrive version
apologies if mentioned elsewhere

RicksAlfas

14,207 posts

264 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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Pistachio said:
You didn't mention the Prodrive version
apologies if mentioned elsewhere
read
Halfway down the article - "To answer some complaints about the handling being too staid, Alfa Romeo turned to Prodrive for help and launched the S versions in 2008."

996TT02

3,339 posts

160 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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"durable"

Just a selection of quotes

Diesel engine - the water pump can seize
Bearings fail in the petrol cars' GM-sourced manual gearbox.
Steering racks fail
Broken springs are common.


Pooh

3,692 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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Everybody goes on about the weight and that is true of the early V6 4wd version but Alfa did a lot to lighten them and the later cars are not particularly heavy given the size and solidity of them, my 2.2S weighed around1430kg which is not bad.

I did 105k miles in my 2.2S and it was great, very solidly built with so squeaks or rattles, very reliable and a lot of fun to drive.
It was not enormously quick in a straight line but the cornering was superb and it was loads of fun to drive down the twisty Perthshire roads.

This is my car at 105k miles, I traded it for a (rubbish) Honda Civic type S and Amari bought it from the auction.










Black-C5

113 posts

226 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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I had an early Brera 2.2 JTS as my daily driver for four years. By all objective measures, it was rubbish - it was slow, noisy and uneconomical (any two of those would be forgivable, but not all three). It was also unreliable, with a plethora of niggly little problems during my ownership. The rear seats are nigh on useless - even my young children complained when they were in the back - and there's bizarrely little storage space for the size of car. There is an inherent design flaw (I was told) with the 2.2 JTS engine which leads to hesitation in a certain rev range, so I had this cured by having the ECU modified which helped, but it was still not a great engine and you had to thrash the nuts off it to get any kind of decent performance (mainly due to the car's weight, to be fair). Positives? Errr, the headlights were very good, as was the air con. And the glass roof was nice.

So, objectively, it was pretty poor, but subjectively... I actually quite liked it. It was cheap, rare, and I just loved the look of the thing (mine was in black, with dark red leather and the 18" wheels, which was a lovely combination). Which is probably why I kept it longer than most cars I've owned. I love Italian cars, and have had several Alfas, but sadly I think this will be my last. I toyed briefly with the idea of replacing it with a Prodrive version or a later V6, but couldn't justify it. I'm a great apologist for Alfas, but I finally had a sense of humour failure when it blew a radiator hose whilst the wife was driving it, leaving her stranded. I replaced it with something German. Do I miss the Brera? Not really, but my head is still turned whenever I see one on the road...

robgraham17

97 posts

170 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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Always had a soft spot for these, looked at getting one a couple of years ago. The real downside for me was the headroom. I'm 6ft3 and the seat just doesnt go low enough to not knock your head on the edge of the glass roof every time you hit a bump. Such a shame, as I would love one. I believe the later cars had lower seat rails but were at a price I couldn't achieve sadly.

bluemason

1,152 posts

143 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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The best looking modern alfa romeo design of all time

Lotus Driver

13 posts

102 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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I was interested in one of these when they were first released. I am 6ft 1 and there was no way could I get comfortable in the driver's seat. The headroom was very poor and the car was cramped. This was surprising considering the external bulk of the car. I ended up buying a 159 2.4 JTD, this was a completed horror story and I won't be buying another Fiat Group product.

V6Alfisti

3,313 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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996TT02 said:
"durable"

Just a selection of quotes

Diesel engine - the water pump can seize
Bearings fail in the petrol cars' GM-sourced manual gearbox.
Steering racks fail
Broken springs are common.
The water pump can sieze if not replaced every 60-70k, so a service item
Bearings can go on the M32 gearbox but I think it's about £500 to fix if it does occur
Steering racks are a weaker point but I think the ends that fail can now be replaced instead of the whole rack
Broken springs are common to all modern cars

Compare that to a 996 for example

IMS bearing failure
Cracked cylinder heads / liners
RMS

Pretty much all modern cars have their issues, but the Brera is sturdy if a little Audi like to drive.

Pooh

3,692 posts

273 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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996TT02 said:
"durable"

Just a selection of quotes

Diesel engine - the water pump can seize
Bearings fail in the petrol cars' GM-sourced manual gearbox.
Steering racks fail
Broken springs are common.
In 105 k miles mine needed: 1 lambda probe, a cam chain at 96k miles and 1 suspension bush, everything else was original when I sold it and I drove it very hard making full use of the revvy engine and cornering abilities on a lot of pretty challenging Scottish backroads. I think that is pretty good and I am not alone in having a good experience with the reliability of these cars.

RicksAlfas

14,207 posts

264 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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I thought the steering rack problem was related to the early cars and dealt with under warranty at the time?
Something about debris in the fluid, or something. It was a long time ago...

Mr Adds

264 posts

169 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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I had a 2006 2.2 SV for 18 months in 2010.

It had most of the front suspension replaced, 2 timing chains, and a few other niggly things. The worst thing was the hesitation at low revs, but you learned to drive around it.

The Tyres on the 18 inch wheels are an odd size, and seem to remember Bridgestone's were around £180 each.

But, it always felt special, had people come up and talk about the car, and when I see one now my head is always turned, and would have another one!



Salamura

539 posts

101 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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I've always liked these. The reasons why I haven't gone and bought one as a primary car yet are:

- The limited rear seats. I do occasionally need to fit 4 adults in the car, and having 2 rear seats that are for people with no legs seems like too big of a compromise. If I did have another car though, this wouldn't be such an issue.

- Rather bulky and heavy. I know it's a GT car, not a sportscar, but I don't think I'd enjoy the feeling of driving an elephant everywhere, which should go much quicker with the available power, but doesn't.

That's why I somehow feel more drawn to the older GT. If only they could combine the looks of the Brera and the mechanics of the GT...

Tim16V

421 posts

202 months

Thursday 14th June 2018
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Rust on the front sub-frames can be severe and I believe it's a large and expensive job to replace one.