Weird Yamaha three-wheeler
Weird Yamaha three-wheeler
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A993LAD

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2,151 posts

252 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Spotted one of these things on the Yamaha stand at Snetterton BSB yesterday. Has anybody seen one on the road?

Weird looking thing and very wide at the front end with a massive fuel tank.


kennydies

201 posts

149 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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It is the Niken (double Sword). Not available yet but there are some reviews on youtube. It is basically an MT09 backend with the two wheel front end

Biker 1

8,609 posts

150 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Bike Magazine raved about it - apparently the next big thing.
I can't really see the point: an MT09 with 2 front wheels & 4 forks. Meh

FourWheelDrift

92,387 posts

315 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Biker 1 said:
Bike Magazine raved about it - apparently the next big thing.
I can't really see the point: an MT09 with 2 front wheels & 4 forks. Meh
Stops short legged people falling over at the lights. biggrin

Gavia

7,627 posts

122 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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There are a few on here who could do with one of those based on recent incidents smile

CAPP0

20,881 posts

234 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Whilst I get that there must be some optimum/engineering reason for the wheel placement, that photo really does make it look extremely wide, even compared to a 3-legged 'ped. That must rule it out for a lot of commuting (where the third wheel might be seen as an advantage in bad weather) and who's going to want one for a Sunday hoon?

But I'm not a motor(tri)cycle manufacturer, so they must know what they are doing. Maybe it's no wider than the bars - but I can still think of everyday commuting situations where that front wheel setup would baulk you.

mickymellon1

371 posts

196 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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for people who can't ride motorbikes / snowflakes

Andy-SP2

271 posts

107 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Looks quite interesting... Wonder if it would appeal to the anti-helmet brigade

airsafari87

3,313 posts

213 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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It's not a bike I have any desire to own, but it is a bike I would love to have a ride of just to see what it is like.

From what I gather.

It's no wider than the bars on a standard MT09 for example.
It does not stand up on its own when stopped at traffic lights etc.
Front end grip is improved by 80%.

And it's the last part that has really got me wanting to give one a try.
I can only imagine it would be as gigglesome throwing it around and taking the p**s on your favorite roundabout / road / track, as it is the first time you give a litre bike wide open throttle all the way up through gears.

yajeed

5,057 posts

285 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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airsafari87 said:
It's not a bike I have any desire to own, but it is a bike I would love to have a ride of just to see what it is like.

From what I gather.

It's no wider than the bars on a standard MT09 for example.
It does not stand up on its own when stopped at traffic lights etc.
Front end grip is improved by 80%.

And it's the last part that has really got me wanting to give one a try.
I can only imagine it would be as gigglesome throwing it around and taking the p**s on your favorite roundabout / road / track, as it is the first time you give a litre bike wide open throttle all the way up through gears.
Reviews seem to think it's not a hooligan machine, mainly because you don't have much grip at the rear. So, on loose/slippery surfaces it's great, but for the rest of time, just a compromise.

I don't see the point, but I haven't ridden one either.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

286 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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airsafari87 said:
Front end grip is improved by 80%.
Doesn't that increase the chances of a highside rather than a lowside?

Vocht

1,645 posts

195 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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I 100% would have bought one of these if it fell into the tricycle category like the Piaggio MP3 LT's, meaning you can ride it on a full car license if you're over 21. No motorcycle license required.

The Niken however unfortunately has a front track of 410mm meaning it's categorised as one 'twinned' front wheel and ultimately needs a motorcycle license to ride one. To be classed as a tricycle the distance between the centre lines of the two front wheels needs to be 460mm+.

Hopefully they'll release a wider tracked model (or spacer kit?) to widen it's market and appeal.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

286 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Just looked at the specs, 263kg wet, which is 75kg heavier than the MT-09.

Esceptico

8,897 posts

140 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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Hideous. Which puts me off. Just out of curiosity I would still like to try one.

2ndclasscitizen

503 posts

148 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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yajeed said:
airsafari87 said:
It's not a bike I have any desire to own, but it is a bike I would love to have a ride of just to see what it is like.

From what I gather.

It's no wider than the bars on a standard MT09 for example.
It does not stand up on its own when stopped at traffic lights etc.
Front end grip is improved by 80%.

And it's the last part that has really got me wanting to give one a try.
I can only imagine it would be as gigglesome throwing it around and taking the p**s on your favorite roundabout / road / track, as it is the first time you give a litre bike wide open throttle all the way up through gears.
Reviews seem to think it's not a hooligan machine, mainly because you don't have much grip at the rear. So, on loose/slippery surfaces it's great, but for the rest of time, just a compromise.

I don't see the point, but I haven't ridden one either.
Reviews I read put that down to the rear tyre, as for some bizarre reason Yamaha has chose to put it on Bridgestone adventure tyres (the A41). Be interesting to see what they're like when grippier tyres become available.

Birky_41

4,658 posts

215 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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I see this a few weeks ago but didn't pay too much attention. It's meant to have a limit to its lean angle due to its design - something like 45 degrees

I not great in this area but isn't there a ruling in the UK atleast that this would technically come under a 3 wheeler like a Robin Reliant so you could use on a car licence or am I missing something?

airsafari87

3,313 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Birky_41 said:
I see this a few weeks ago but didn't pay too much attention. It's meant to have a limit to its lean angle due to its design - something like 45 degrees

I not great in this area but isn't there a ruling in the UK atleast that this would technically come under a 3 wheeler like a Robin Reliant so you could use on a car licence or am I missing something?
From what I understand, it would need to be able to stay upright unaided in order for it to qualify.

YouWhat

199 posts

108 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Birky_41 said:
I see this a few weeks ago but didn't pay too much attention. It's meant to have a limit to its lean angle due to its design - something like 45 degrees

I not great in this area but isn't there a ruling in the UK atleast that this would technically come under a 3 wheeler like a Robin Reliant so you could use on a car licence or am I missing something?
Its not as simple as "having three wheels", its classed as a motorcycle.

Jazoli

9,698 posts

281 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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mickymellon1 said:
for people who can't ride motorbikes / snowflakes
Is snowflake the new way of describing someone then as it's all I see written these days?

The Niken is hardly designed for folk who can't ride motorbikes as it rides exactly like a motorbike and will fall over if you let it (unlike the MP3 scooters)

Its and interesting design, they will sell about 2 of them over here, the French will buy loads of them.

yajeed

5,057 posts

285 months

Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Birky_41 said:
I see this a few weeks ago but didn't pay too much attention. It's meant to have a limit to its lean angle due to its design - something like 45 degrees
One of the reviews did mention the limited lean.
Even with a stickler rear, surely that wouldn’t compensate for having effectively twice the contact patch up front?

I’d love to ride one, but can’t really think why I’d buy one in favour of a bike.