Road kit for my 98-on CR500?
Discussion
hendo76 said:
Hi i am looking for road kit for my 98-on CR500 i cant seem to find a quality kit every time i find one advertised it is out of stock or discontinued.
any help would be much appreciated
Cheers Chris.
Riding that on the road, the only lighting kit required will be the one on top of the Ambiwlans any help would be much appreciated
Cheers Chris.
I would leave it unmolested. They are going for top dollar in that state. If you insist on lighting it for the street, I'd suggest a total-loss battery system. You'd need front and rear brake lights and switches too unless you go for a restricted to daylight hours advisory. Then you'd have to blank the front and back lights....
"Restricted to daylight hours" 
where do people get this rubbish?
You'll get (or should unless the MOT tester was a dick, in which case I'd ask him to do it properly) an advisory that the bike was presented for test without lights. You can't "restrict" or tell someone that they can only ride in "daylight" because they could go home and fit lights.
Anyway - back on topic OP - Baja racing do lighting coils for CRs, I had one on my CRF450R, however I also had it MOTd with nothing but a horn and a reg plate. Just an advisory for no lights.
where do people get this rubbish?You'll get (or should unless the MOT tester was a dick, in which case I'd ask him to do it properly) an advisory that the bike was presented for test without lights. You can't "restrict" or tell someone that they can only ride in "daylight" because they could go home and fit lights.
Anyway - back on topic OP - Baja racing do lighting coils for CRs, I had one on my CRF450R, however I also had it MOTd with nothing but a horn and a reg plate. Just an advisory for no lights.
Dog Star said:
"Restricted to daylight hours" where do people get this rubbish?
You'll get (or should unless the MOT tester was a dick, in which case I'd ask him to do it properly) an advisory that the bike was presented for test without lights. You can't "restrict" or tell someone that they can only ride in "daylight" because they could go home and fit lights.
You are aware there's a specific MOT for daytime only which removes requirements for position lamps, right? where do people get this rubbish?You'll get (or should unless the MOT tester was a dick, in which case I'd ask him to do it properly) an advisory that the bike was presented for test without lights. You can't "restrict" or tell someone that they can only ride in "daylight" because they could go home and fit lights.
http://racehq.co.uk/mots
http://www.motuk.com/next2.asp?ID=20
Krikkit said:
You are aware there's a specific MOT for daytime only which removes requirements for position lamps, right?
http://racehq.co.uk/mots
http://www.motuk.com/next2.asp?ID=20
Neither of which is a site that is in any way official. They're just tosh.http://racehq.co.uk/mots
http://www.motuk.com/next2.asp?ID=20
How about a gov.uk link that says this and states what it will say on your MOT. Show me a picture of one of these mythical daytime MOTs.
ETA: from the horses mouth - just checked with a mate who is an MOT tester - "no such thing". You will get advisories on the lack of lights.
Edited by Dog Star on Wednesday 20th June 09:35
bimsb6 said:
I had a daytime only mot on a trials bike a few years back it had written on it “daytime only”
Written by who? There is no such thing as a 'daytime' MOT. If you present a vehicle with certain lights missing it will still pass and you'll get a bog standard normal MOT certificate with probably, it's not compulsory, advisories. Dog Star said:
Krikkit said:
You are aware there's a specific MOT for daytime only which removes requirements for position lamps, right?
http://racehq.co.uk/mots
http://www.motuk.com/next2.asp?ID=20
Neither of which is a site that is in any way official. They're just tosh.http://racehq.co.uk/mots
http://www.motuk.com/next2.asp?ID=20
How about a gov.uk link that says this and states what it will say on your MOT. Show me a picture of one of these mythical daytime MOTs.
ETA: from the horses mouth - just checked with a mate who is an MOT tester - "no such thing". You will get advisories on the lack of lights.
Edited by Dog Star on Wednesday 20th June 09:35
of the Road Vehicle (Lighting)
Regulations 1989, as amended:
‘Nothing in these regulations shall
require any lamp or reflector to be
fitted between sunrise and sunset
to a vehicle not fitted with any
front or rear position lamp.’
So although not officially called a 'daytime MOT' you can get an MOT that is only meets MOT standards between sunrise and sunset. In other words, daytime.
M_A_S said:
bimsb6 said:
I had a daytime only mot on a trials bike a few years back it had written on it “daytime only”
Written by who? There is no such thing as a 'daytime' MOT. If you present a vehicle with certain lights missing it will still pass and you'll get a bog standard normal MOT certificate with probably, it's not compulsory, advisories. Dog Star said:
Krikkit said:
You are aware there's a specific MOT for daytime only which removes requirements for position lamps, right?
http://racehq.co.uk/mots
http://www.motuk.com/next2.asp?ID=20
Neither of which is a site that is in any way official. They're just tosh.http://racehq.co.uk/mots
http://www.motuk.com/next2.asp?ID=20
How about a gov.uk link that says this and states what it will say on your MOT. Show me a picture of one of these mythical daytime MOTs.
ETA: from the horses mouth - just checked with a mate who is an MOT tester - "no such thing". You will get advisories on the lack of lights.
M_A_S said:
Written by who? There is no such thing as a 'daytime' MOT. If you present a vehicle with certain lights missing it will still pass and you'll get a bog standard normal MOT certificate with probably, it's not compulsory, advisories.
This. I road registered my KTM 450 SXF with no lights at all, just a horn and "E" rated tyres. no advisories, nothing. Took 30 minutes. It’s just officious testers; if someone ur “daytime only” on a certificate of mine I’d make him redo it.
Just some examples - take a look at the MOT history for my old CRF450R reg PO55BNL.
Half the time no mention of no lights! Or speedo. ( The “noisy exhaust” makes me smile - full race Akrapovic
)
Or my (now stolen) KTM FJ54WPF.
THATS GOT “no lights” but I note that my mate who I got it off once had a “daylight only” before I owned it; clearly he took the bike to be tested by a t
t who was making up his own rules.
Just some examples - take a look at the MOT history for my old CRF450R reg PO55BNL.
Half the time no mention of no lights! Or speedo. ( The “noisy exhaust” makes me smile - full race Akrapovic
)Or my (now stolen) KTM FJ54WPF.
THATS GOT “no lights” but I note that my mate who I got it off once had a “daylight only” before I owned it; clearly he took the bike to be tested by a t
t who was making up his own rules. 
independentLee said:
Obligatory 'Tard photograph for the Doubting Thomases on here...Daytime MOT Advisory
Don't you get it? A tester can put "IndepentLee is an elephant" on your advisory sheet. They can put anything, it's free text.It's an officious t
tty tester - if they'd put that on mine I'd make them take it off. It has no standing. Look at the MOT history of two of my bikes (above). No crap like that on my advisory sheets.For the hard of thinking and I'm not bothering with this anymore: there is no such thing as a daytime MOT. It's an MOT.
You should (to cover the testers arse) get an advisory for the bike being presented without lights. You cam go home, fit lights and ride around on it all night long, get stopped by the coppers etc and it's all perfectly legal (as long as the lights you've fitted are legal, of course).
What about these?
Dog Star said:
independentLee said:
Obligatory 'Tard photograph for the Doubting Thomases on here...Daytime MOT Advisory
Don't you get it? A tester can put "IndepentLee is an elephant" on your advisory sheet. They can put anything, it's free text.It's an officious t
tty tester - if they'd put that on mine I'd make them take it off. It has no standing. Look at the MOT history of two of my bikes (above). No crap like that on my advisory sheets.For the hard of thinking and I'm not bothering with this anymore: there is no such thing as a daytime MOT. It's an MOT.
You should (to cover the testers arse) get an advisory for the bike being presented without lights. You cam go home, fit lights and ride around on it all night long, get stopped by the coppers etc and it's all perfectly legal (as long as the lights you've fitted are legal, of course).
What about these?
independentLee said:
Taking my KDX in for its MOT on Saturday. It has no brake lights and I can't recall the wording on last year's one...
After a certain year (and probably older than KDXs) I'm pretty sure you need at least one brake light even if you're going for the non-daytime-MOT daytime-only-MOT. My oldest bike is 58 years old and that even has one (but may not need it) but I'm sure I had a bike before which was borderline - completely off the top of my head, maybe it was 1973? - where you need at least one brake operating the light. Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff