Those with high blood pressure should avoid weights?
Those with high blood pressure should avoid weights?
Author
Discussion

TameRacingDriver

Original Poster:

20,556 posts

301 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
quotequote all
So it's been printed in a newspaper which kind of puts the veracity of the claims in a somewhat questionable arena,but what do we think about this article which suggests avoiding weightlifting and sprinting if you have high blood pressure?

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/976818...

I only ask because I am a long time sufferer of high blood pressure and have been known to partake in the old weights...

Thoughts? If true, are there any reasonable workarounds other than stopping?

TameRacingDriver

Original Poster:

20,556 posts

301 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
quotequote all
And here is a nice contradictory piece of research. No wonder nobody knows what to do for the best anymore.

https://www.precisionnutrition.com/weights-for-hbp

Grandad Gaz

5,281 posts

275 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
quotequote all
/\
Exactly !

I bought a blood pressure monitor a couple of weeks ago and have been testing it twice a day, after a visit to the doctors recently.

My wife and I had to collect a piano the other day, put it in my van and bring it home. Bloody thing nearly killed us both! And yet, when I checked my blood pressure a couple of hours later it was the lowest it's been to date. Extraordinary!

MXRod

2,853 posts

176 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
quotequote all
3 MIs and a stent ,and medication for coronary heart disease, the advice given to me was low impact exercise is ok , swimming , cycling , brisk walking . But explosive exercise was not good , such as pushing a car , or in my case manhandling our caravan ( motormover sorted that out ) or dead lifting a heavy weight , bag of cement etc .
So the article goes along with the advice I was given

lost in espace

6,586 posts

236 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
quotequote all
I was on the 5x5 and suddenly got a headache. I now get a exertion headaches, I am sure it was from the 5x5. Blood pressure goes up suddenly, I get a nasty migraine until I put down whatever heavy thing I have lifted.

TameRacingDriver

Original Poster:

20,556 posts

301 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
quotequote all
Interesting replies, thanks, it does seem like there may be something in it.

I've done a bit googling at lunch time, and the overall consensus seems to be that it can be beneficial in the long term, but those affected should stick to lighter weights (50-60% 1RM, and even when practiced, definitely no higher than 75% max) and at higher rep ranges 8-12 or 10-15 for older people, normal lifting speed (nothing super slow) and ensure adequate rests between sets. "Sub-maximal" was a phrase I saw a lot in my googling suggesting those with HBP should avoid over-exertion. Even so, some gains were still attained, but also resulted in reduced resting BP.

Makes me wonder mind, I used to really go for it sometimes, and quite often would feel ill / off colour for anything up to 2-3 hours afterwards. I do wonder now if this was related...

The Selfish Gene

5,582 posts

239 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
quotequote all
I asked my doctor this the other day (after a head injury, hospital visit and high blood pressure reading on a routine check)

He said it's fine to run, cycle , swim etc - and do whatever gym routine I normally do. It should lower it if anything. This is obviously 1 GP and not necessarily the latest research.

I guess by looking at me he could tell I wasn't hugely into the weights biggrin

out of interest - what are you guys considering high readings?

I was a roughly variants 160/100 on three separate readings.

I run three times per week and I can run half marathon in under 2 hours, but I am probably a bit heavy. Hugely stressful job. 87 kilos at 5'10'' and drink something (not excess) probably 5 days out of 7................

Monday was a bottle of wine between 2, Tuesday 2 pints, tonight will be 5 etc so far this week.

To be fair I think I know the solution - clearly from what I've typed.......just interested in everyone else.

TameRacingDriver

Original Poster:

20,556 posts

301 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
quotequote all
I did one in the office quite a while ago when someone brought their machine in from the docs. I remember the first one being 170 which was alarming enough that I don’t remember the second.

I’ve got form for it. Also runs in the family, parents are not dead yet though.

Not massively fit, but walk ~ 100k steps a week, and workout with weights (see above) when I can. I do like a drink, admittedly. I could probably use getting a bit fitter, drinking a bit less, losing a couple of stone if honest (5’10 and about 14.5 st). Working on it. The job is neither good or bad but can be stressful (can’t they all).

Mark Benson

8,264 posts

298 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
quotequote all
The Selfish Gene said:
out of interest - what are you guys considering high readings?

I was a roughly variants 160/100 on three separate readings.

I run three times per week and I can run half marathon in under 2 hours, but I am probably a bit heavy. Hugely stressful job. 87 kilos at 5'10'' and drink something (not excess) probably 5 days out of 7................

Monday was a bottle of wine between 2, Tuesday 2 pints, tonight will be 5 etc so far this week.

To be fair I think I know the solution - clearly from what I've typed.......just interested in everyone else.
I could have typed that, except I cycle mostly at the gym and I've cut down a bit on the drinking now (at least that's what I tell myself - no midweek but I'm not sure that doesn't just encourage more at the weekend).
48 years old, stressful job, 5'10" and 83kg, eat too much and drink too much but try to keep up the exercise to at least stay at that weight.

Went for my race license medical a couple of years ago and the doc noticed my bp was 165/95 so insisted that she would only sign me off as fit to race if I went on Ramipril 5mg and got a bp machine for the home.
She gave me a target of 135/85 which I hit except when I did more on the weights at the gym, when it goes up to around 145/90.

The machine is really useful, I thought my pressure might be creeping back up a few months ago so I did a few days of tests and sure enough it averaged 145/90 even when I avoided weights. Went back to the docs and she upped the dose to 10mg Ramipril and I'm back down.

In fact I just tested myself and I'm 130/80 which I'm well chuffed about but I've done 5 mornings of 45-minute bile rides this week and no weights.

Edited by Mark Benson on Friday 22 June 16:29

The Selfish Gene

5,582 posts

239 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
quotequote all
Mark Benson said:
I could have typed that, except I cycle mostly at the gym and I've cut down a bit on the drinking now (at least that's what I tell myself - no midweek but I'm not sure that doesn't just encourage more at the weekend).
48 years old, stressful job, 5'10" and 83kg, eat too much and drink too much but try to keep up the exercise to at least stay at that weight.

Went for my race license medical a couple of years ago and the doc noticed my bp was 165/95 so insisted that she would only sign me off as fit to race if I went on Ramipril 5mg and got a bp machine for the home.
She gave me a target of 135/85 which I hit except when I did more on the weights at the gym, when it goes up to around 145/90.

The machine is really useful, I thought my pressure might be creeping back up a few months ago so I did a few days of tests and sure enough it averaged 145/90 even when I avoided weights. Went back to the docs and she upped the dose to 10mg Ramipril and I'm back down.

In fact I just tested myself and I'm 130/80 which I'm well chuffed about but I've done 5 mornings of 45-minute bile rides this week and no weights.

Edited by Mark Benson on Friday 22 June 16:29
well done - they are great readings. Yeah I think it's all about my diet (don't have a kitchen in my house, never cooked a meal in my life etc) and going out drinking. The stressful job is sure a part - but only a small part I think.