20k oil change
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JRdrums

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114 posts

137 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Hi I’ve just bought a 2017 Seat Leon 1.6 tdi. I drive +30k a year so am thinking of opting for the long life service intervals. I know a lot of the PH community dispise extended oil changes but at this mileage I will having an oil and filter change approximately every 6months which I think should be fine. Has anyone got an example of a 200+k mile car that is on Long life oil changes?

anonymous-user

78 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Personally for the cost of the oil and a filter I would change them myself inbetween dealer services.

tjlees

1,382 posts

261 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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JRdrums said:
Hi I’ve just bought a 2017 Seat Leon 1.6 tdi. I drive +30k a year so am thinking of opting for the long life service intervals. I know a lot of the PH community dispise extended oil changes but at this mileage I will having an oil and filter change approximately every 6months which I think should be fine. Has anyone got an example of a 200+k mile car that is on Long life oil changes?
181k and still counting with service intervals at 18.5k miles - well at least to guy I sold it to. Couple of guys at work are in excess of 220k and just follow the CBS - both still on the original engine/turbo. The only things I wish i’d Done was clean the egr valve on a regular basis (every 50k) because mine eventually killed the throttle body

However DIY oil and filter changes cost very little - so I now perform a diy oil between services, mainly because the BMW f30 CBS usually goes to 22k so changing every 11k seems reasonable.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

184 months

Friday 22nd June 2018
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Yes just change the oil every 10 k buy a oil sucker don't bother with the filter
it only gets the bigger stuff ( just change at your major service ) , the danger of long drain intervals is the oil getting diluted with diesel and soot ...

Belle427

11,400 posts

257 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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At 6 month intervals you will be ok providing you use the correct high quality oil.
Most of the cars on longlife servicing probably go for a few years before getting a change which isn’t great.

E-bmw

12,379 posts

176 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Personally (especially considering the cost) I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would make me think of leaving a full oil & filter change for more that 10k miles especially on a turbo diesel!

stevieturbo

17,970 posts

271 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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JRdrums said:
Hi I’ve just bought a 2017 Seat Leon 1.6 tdi. I drive +30k a year so am thinking of opting for the long life service intervals. I know a lot of the PH community dispise extended oil changes but at this mileage I will having an oil and filter change approximately every 6months which I think should be fine. Has anyone got an example of a 200+k mile car that is on Long life oil changes?
If you do a lot of miles and intend to keep it for a while, the car is your own, you pay it's upkeep, you need it for work etc etc etc

Then treat it well.

I do about 90k a year, I change oil/filters etc every 10k. My first engine lasted 660k.

And at 2017, you'll be needing the correct oil for your vehicle regardless because of silly DPF's etc.

227bhp

10,203 posts

152 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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E-bmw said:
Personally (especially considering the cost) I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would make me think of leaving a full oil & filter change for more that 10k miles especially on a turbo diesel!
What about not giving a toss because it'll be someone else's problem in years to come?

E-bmw

12,379 posts

176 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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227bhp said:
E-bmw said:
Personally (especially considering the cost) I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would make me think of leaving a full oil & filter change for more that 10k miles especially on a turbo diesel!
What about not giving a toss because it'll be someone else's problem in years to come?
Assuming it lasts that long. wink

227bhp

10,203 posts

152 months

Saturday 23rd June 2018
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E-bmw said:
227bhp said:
E-bmw said:
Personally (especially considering the cost) I cannot imagine a set of circumstances that would make me think of leaving a full oil & filter change for more that 10k miles especially on a turbo diesel!
What about not giving a toss because it'll be someone else's problem in years to come?
Assuming it lasts that long. wink
Should have said, not pointing at the OP of course biggrin but that's basically it for the majority isn't it? As long as it does x amount of miles for the first or second owner that's it, no-one gives a toss apart from the poor sods who pick them up after that, not many people keep a vehicle for its lifetime.
I'm with the 6 to 10k oil changers, but It is very dependent on the engine and the usage, if it's going to get hammered up and down the motorway everyday it'll likely be ok, but pottering around housing estates and never being opened up for any great length of time and you need to be be changing more regularly as it isn't being used properly.
Personally I do a fair bit of stop/start, cold engine driving, but when I can I get it warmed up and give it hell down the motorway or a local bypass to give it a good clean out, luckily I have some steep motorway pulls locally which are good for this. Sump size is also relevant, some of the light commercial bigger I4 engines take 7 - 8ltrs on an oil change.

So many people buy modern diesels not realising a lot of them are no good for the job they want them to do, but still keep on adhering to the manufacturers oil change intervals or even stretching them. The Mazda 6 crowd are some of the worst culprits, the Duratec petrols in them are very good engines and in many peoples cases doing the job as well as a diesel including racking up monster miles, but people still buy diesels (even though they cost more to buy and the fuel costs more) because they don't do the maths and then they suffer from complete engine failures, (worn out cam lobes and/or clogged up oil pick ups) from what i've seen it's from contaminated oil, but not 100% sure.

Edited by 227bhp on Sunday 24th June 07:35

E-bmw

12,379 posts

176 months

Sunday 24th June 2018
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227bhp said:
So many people buy modern diesels not realising a lot of them are no good for the job they want them to do, people still buy diesels (even though they cost more to buy and the fuel costs more) because they don't do the maths and then they suffer from complete engine failures, from what i've seen it's from contaminated oil, but not 100% sure.
100% this^^^^

Most diesels wouldn't be bought by private citizens if they did ALL the maths.

Edited by E-bmw on Sunday 24th June 06:44