best mesh wifi
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wjwren

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4,484 posts

166 months

Monday 25th June 2018
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any recommendations? Had the BT whole home and returned it as crap.

TheGuru

745 posts

132 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Interested in this as well, and still unsure whether mesh is the way to go or to go with one of those huge routers with 8 aerials

rednotdead

1,258 posts

257 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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wjwren said:
any recommendations? Had the BT whole home and returned it as crap.
Why was that? I have wholehome and it hasn't missed a beat.

rsbmw

3,466 posts

136 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Orbi is very good

wjwren

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4,484 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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I have random issues where family members say their device has disconnected. As i type this my phone says internet unavailable. Also yhe pause function is pretty useless as it often wont unpause and the only way to get it back is to turn it all off. The other week it randomly paused a handful of items on the network and i couldnt unpause them.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

262 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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TheGuru said:
Interested in this as well, and still unsure whether mesh is the way to go or to go with one of those huge routers with 8 aerials
Depends on the physical characteristics of your house. Old place with engineering brick in internal walls, and you could have sixteen aerials, blasting enough power to fry a pigeon and the signal won't get through smile

I've been beta testing some Linksys hobbies for multiple iterations and they are reliable, but not as reliable as the hard wired Unifi APs.

wjwren

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4,484 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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I used powerlines on the BT hub to increase speed. The range is good on them but they seem to fall over a fair bit. There are pages and pages of issues on the BT community forums.

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

166 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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TP link Deco looks good. Anybody have one of these?

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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rednotdead said:
wjwren said:
any recommendations? Had the BT whole home and returned it as crap.
Why was that? I have wholehome and it hasn't missed a beat.
Likewise - absolutely faultless, after the debacle that was 3x Apple Airport Extremes.

AC43

13,692 posts

239 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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Podie said:
rednotdead said:
wjwren said:
any recommendations? Had the BT whole home and returned it as crap.
Why was that? I have wholehome and it hasn't missed a beat.
Likewise - absolutely faultless, after the debacle that was 3x Apple Airport Extremes.
LOL. Sounds like my recent (failed) attempt to get my Orbi's working with a Virgin Hub 3. The Orbi + Virgin combo seems to work very well for many people but I just couldn't get it to stop dropping out. I suspect the problem may well be with the Hub.

For now I've reverted to my Devolo Powerlines which are clunkier but they actually work with my Virgin set up.

I might hang on to the Orbi's to see if they're any better in the next place. I'll have BT infrastructure and a router from Vodaphone and hopefully will have a couple of weeks of testing time between the line going in and the actual move.

recalluk

816 posts

267 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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wjwren said:
any recommendations? Had the BT whole home and returned it as crap.
I see you returned this but just to check for others.

90% of the time this is caused but NOT switching off your hub wifi. You are supposed to use the Whole House system on its own, if you leave the hub wifi on then devices connect to it instead and pausing etc wont apply.

Also new firmware out yesterday seems to have solved the steering issue people were having with apple devices.

AC43

13,692 posts

239 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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recalluk said:
wjwren said:
any recommendations? Had the BT whole home and returned it as crap.
90% of the time this is caused but NOT switching off your hub wifi. You are supposed to use the Whole House system on its own, if you leave the hub wifi on then devices connect to it instead and pausing etc wont apply.
I'd hoped that this was the case with my Virgin/Orbi problems but sadly not. The Virgin Hun would sit there in Modem Mode happily talking to the internet whist the Orbi sulked and claimed the Hub had said something rude to it. Or something.

andyb

146 posts

315 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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recalluk said:
I see you returned this but just to check for others.

90% of the time this is caused but NOT switching off your hub wifi. You are supposed to use the Whole House system on its own, if you leave the hub wifi on then devices connect to it instead and pausing etc wont apply.

Also new firmware out yesterday seems to have solved the steering issue people were having with apple devices.
The issue with BT whole home wifi wasn't just related to not switching off hub wifi or apple devices. The old firmware worked fine for many, not for others. For me it worked with ethernet backhaul, not reliably via wifi connection (between receivers). With standard connection, got regular drop-outs of the mesh receivers and devices connecting to the whole home receiver but not the internet. Restarting the set-up resolved the issue for a day or so (as did moving to ethernet).

When it works, the BT whole home wifi mesh is great - but BT were very slow in getting a new firmware out and have no ability to revert to an older version.

Hopefully the new firmware is better, although BT have confirmed they know it won't fix in all cases and a further firmware update is required.

I was going to return mine, but checked the forums for the alternatives and they all seem to have their issues. If BT do get this sorted, then for the money its a great system.

Bikerjon

2,211 posts

192 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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I think BT is still the best consumer level mesh system at the moment. Like all these systems there's been a few wobbles with the app/firmware updates, but for the vast majority of people who just want to "install and forget" then it works very well.

AC43

13,692 posts

239 months

Tuesday 26th June 2018
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andyb said:
recalluk said:
I see you returned this but just to check for others.

90% of the time this is caused but NOT switching off your hub wifi. You are supposed to use the Whole House system on its own, if you leave the hub wifi on then devices connect to it instead and pausing etc wont apply.

Also new firmware out yesterday seems to have solved the steering issue people were having with apple devices.
The issue with BT whole home wifi wasn't just related to not switching off hub wifi or apple devices. The old firmware worked fine for many, not for others. For me it worked with ethernet backhaul, not reliably via wifi connection (between receivers). With standard connection, got regular drop-outs of the mesh receivers and devices connecting to the whole home receiver but not the internet. Restarting the set-up resolved the issue for a day or so (as did moving to ethernet).

When it works, the BT whole home wifi mesh is great - but BT were very slow in getting a new firmware out and have no ability to revert to an older version.

Hopefully the new firmware is better, although BT have confirmed they know it won't fix in all cases and a further firmware update is required.

I was going to return mine, but checked the forums for the alternatives and they all seem to have their issues. If BT do get this sorted, then for the money its a great system.
The comments on all of them seem to be 80% delighted vs 20% suicidal.

During the increasingly-limited times my Orbi's actually functioned properly I was delighted. Having a seamless 110 Mb/s all over the house and half way up the garden was a real eye opener.

I'm hoping a move to ethernet backhaul and away from Virgin will solve all my issues.

And maybe paying someone to set it up and then diagnose/fix any problems.......

CAH706

2,219 posts

195 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Just a bump on this as i need a solution in my new house and conscious things have moved on.

- 3 floors
- Not massive but WiFi doesn't reach everywhere
- Sky q
- Sky broadband getting c.50 speeds
- don't need loads of features. Ease, range and reliability the key

What's the best and simplest mesh to use at the moment?

Have seen Google mesh recommended but some complaints of range.

Thanks

andrewjamesroberts

2,266 posts

235 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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Despite the OP I have had BT Whole home for a year now and works perfectly I’m on Virgin 100 and get anywhere between full speed (100mb) and 70mb depending where I am in my house which is Edwardian stone built with effectively 5 floors

I have 3 discs that cover this

rednotdead

1,258 posts

257 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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BT Wholehome for nearly 2 years now. I occasionally log in to the app to check the updates but apart from that it has been faultless. 3 discs around the house provide seamless and fast coverage. Some good deals crop up on amazon occasionally.

Cpl nobby nobbs

390 posts

168 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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I have the Linksys Velop Ac6600 that has 3 nodes.
I use wired backhaul over cat6 but is also works well using the WiFi backhaul.
Works faultlessly for me covers my house and garden in 5ghz wifi.

anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 8th June 2019
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I've got an Orbi system and it works well on my BT broadband package, 3 floors plus large garden and it's all covered. I turn off the wifi on the BT router, but there was another poster on here that had a nightmare with his Orbi system.

The only fly in the ointment is that I also have Sky Q and 3 Sky Q mini's and a couple of Q boosters, so my house ends up looking like a wifi battlefield with all these networks bouncing about. Sky Q mini's won't connect to an Orbi system, only to themselves via the main box or Q boosters.

With hindsight I'd just get Sky broadband and then use the Q Mini's as my mesh system instead to keep things simple.