Don't you just hate tubby's
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Impressed the hell out of a mate with my 996 C4, he loved the feel etc etc, said was fast on 'b roads' but not so fast on m/ways, which I felt too.
Well last week he picked up an S4 (2000), something like 285bhp/320lbs standard, which wasnt enough to worry mine, esp due to weight, but Friday, he invited me to AMD where he was going for a 'tune'. Once there he pulled out a new miltek exhaust and told me about chipping etc..
4hrs later they bought his dyno out
326bhp/412lbs
All for the measly sum of £1600 all in!! and the car only cost 10k!..
I was astounded my the mid-range thump this thing had, like a wave of unlimited power, ok, its not got the best handling, but so much power for so little..
This has now seriously given me the horn for more power, but I'd be looking @ £10k on mine just to scrape the barrel of TT heaven....
Chipping seems pointless from talking to them
Oh well, I'll just have to keep leading him down the 'b roads' for now
Well last week he picked up an S4 (2000), something like 285bhp/320lbs standard, which wasnt enough to worry mine, esp due to weight, but Friday, he invited me to AMD where he was going for a 'tune'. Once there he pulled out a new miltek exhaust and told me about chipping etc..
4hrs later they bought his dyno out 326bhp/412lbs All for the measly sum of £1600 all in!! and the car only cost 10k!..
I was astounded my the mid-range thump this thing had, like a wave of unlimited power, ok, its not got the best handling, but so much power for so little..
This has now seriously given me the horn for more power, but I'd be looking @ £10k on mine just to scrape the barrel of TT heaven....
Chipping seems pointless from talking to them
Oh well, I'll just have to keep leading him down the 'b roads' for now
Aha - definitely a stupid question then
Definitely agree - turbo tuning can be a tad irritating for those of us with nicely tuned N/A motors - a bit more boost and a big slug of extra fuel to prevent detonation can give monster power increases (and, more importantly, torque) - whereas N/A cars need expensive rev-extending and breathing gear to make power gains.
However, out of the cars I've owned, none of the turbo engines have been the most satisfying. Turbo lag really takes the shine off the sheer mental performance they are capable of, for me at least.
I guess the big-dollar serious kit like some of the 911s on PH (the Ruf cars of GuyR and AdamT, UV's boost monster and DeR's car first spring to mind) must give the dual benefits of large capacity *and* turbo... but it doesn't come cheap
I really love my half-way house of the 993 with an Eaton supercharger - I doubt I'll even be able to push it to original 993 turbo power (408 bhp?) but hell, there's no lag and it's great on the road...
Definitely agree - turbo tuning can be a tad irritating for those of us with nicely tuned N/A motors - a bit more boost and a big slug of extra fuel to prevent detonation can give monster power increases (and, more importantly, torque) - whereas N/A cars need expensive rev-extending and breathing gear to make power gains.
However, out of the cars I've owned, none of the turbo engines have been the most satisfying. Turbo lag really takes the shine off the sheer mental performance they are capable of, for me at least.
I guess the big-dollar serious kit like some of the 911s on PH (the Ruf cars of GuyR and AdamT, UV's boost monster and DeR's car first spring to mind) must give the dual benefits of large capacity *and* turbo... but it doesn't come cheap
I really love my half-way house of the 993 with an Eaton supercharger - I doubt I'll even be able to push it to original 993 turbo power (408 bhp?) but hell, there's no lag and it's great on the road...
I was of exactly the same opinion as Cyberface until I got my own Turbo. Mine is a child of the 80's so does have lag as standard, but is easily reduced with a few well spent £££s. You soon learn to alter your driving style, and be in the correct gear neccessary for intstant boost if needed. Alternativley a lazy Sunday afternoon dawdle can be taken totally off boost, so in effect you have two different cars.
I can't compete with the monster torque of that AMD S4 upgrade, but my own £8k 944T went from 250bhp/250lbft to 315bhp/337lbft with just a £400 spend. Much better value than the £1600 for an extra 40bhp
I can't compete with the monster torque of that AMD S4 upgrade, but my own £8k 944T went from 250bhp/250lbft to 315bhp/337lbft with just a £400 spend. Much better value than the £1600 for an extra 40bhp
You are just driving properly engineered cars...
The experts can now remap Cerbera 4.5's to produce similar gains for £1000... mind, it'd be nice if they had originally bothered to atleast set some decent mapping!! its that far out that an NA car can jump from running like a dog at 330 odd break, to being nearer 390!
BAH. Sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off with a GT3.
The experts can now remap Cerbera 4.5's to produce similar gains for £1000... mind, it'd be nice if they had originally bothered to atleast set some decent mapping!! its that far out that an NA car can jump from running like a dog at 330 odd break, to being nearer 390!
BAH. Sometimes I wonder if we'd be better off with a GT3.
Is mapping a NA 996 really a waste of time? I've toyd with the idea of taking my 3.4 C2 along to Ray West. He said a 20-25bhp gain would be possible through remaping and installing a larger throttle body.
More importantly, the mid range grunt is transformed, which to be honest is the only area I feel the 3.4 is lacking. For around £800 this is pretty good value.
More importantly, the mid range grunt is transformed, which to be honest is the only area I feel the 3.4 is lacking. For around £800 this is pretty good value.
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