3 yr driving ban for drunk mob scoot driver
3 yr driving ban for drunk mob scoot driver
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/16323648.mobility-...

“The case was adjourned from earlier this month while lawyers for Collins and the Crown Prosecution Service checked to see if people driving mobility scooters could be banned for not observing drink driving restrictions.

On his return to court, after hearing from the lawyers that mobility scooter drivers could be banned from driving, magistrates handed out the three-year ban.“

MB140

5,068 posts

133 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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fking bonkers.

Just out of interest then if your in charge of an electric bike and have a few and cycle home does that mean you could lose your licence to drive a car.

Although I lived in Canada for a while and a drink drive charge stopped you from driving anything with an engine in it. Skidoo, snowmobiles, boats, sit on lawn mowers. Planes. So maybe this isn’t as mental.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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I'd guess it was an 8mph scooter - which need to be registered and insured, unlike 4mph ones - and he has a previous drink-drive conviction, so 3yr is the minimum.

Cat

3,134 posts

299 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
I'd guess it was an 8mph scooter - which need to be registered and insured, unlike 4mph ones - and he has a previous drink-drive conviction, so 3yr is the minimum.
There is no requirement for insurance for class 3 (8mph) mobility scooters as they are not considered as motor vehicles.

There appears to be some information missing from the article in the OP as in normal circumstances invalid carriages/mobility scooters being used by someone with a physical disability are not subject to drink drive legislation.

I wonder if the person using it wasn't disabled?

Cat

vikingaero

13,330 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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JPJPJP said:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/16323648.mobility-...

“The case was adjourned from earlier this month while lawyers for Collins and the Crown Prosecution Service checked to see if people driving mobility scooters could be banned for not observing drink driving restrictions.

On his return to court, after hearing from the lawyers that mobility scooter drivers could be banned from driving, magistrates handed out the three-year ban.“
I'd argue it was a sensible decision just for his own protection.

He lives in Central York and was 4 times the limit. All it takes is one pissed episode and he'll be under the wheels of a passing vehicle.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

139 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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An engine?

It is an electric motor with a gearbox on it.

Seems like a pointless prosecution to me, his health is probably the only real concern and all this means is he'll get ale'd up closer to home, so it is unlikely to impact on much other than the income of pubs or off-licences further from his house.


Cat

3,134 posts

299 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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anonymous said:
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You don't need a licence for a mobility scooter.

As mentioned earlier there is clearly more to this than has been reported because mobility scooters, when used by a disabled person, are not subject to drink drive legislation.

Cat

cmaguire

3,589 posts

139 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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Cat said:
You don't need a licence for a mobility scooter.

As mentioned earlier there is clearly more to this than has been reported because mobility scooters, when used by a disabled person, are not subject to drink drive legislation.

Cat
Yet they are if I or you are at the controls? Similar daftness to the van speed limits if so. Where does disablement begin, does he need a doctor's note?

Some Guy

2,667 posts

121 months

Saturday 30th June 2018
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Cat said:
I wonder if the person using it wasn't disabled?

Cat
Sounds like it was a "chubby chariot".

pheasant

159 posts

136 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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cmaguire said:
Yet they are if I or you are at the controls? Similar daftness to the van speed limits if so. Where does disablement begin, does he need a doctor's note?
Indeed where does it end - how about when driving a mobility allowance car ?

gareth_r

6,752 posts

267 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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vikingaero said:
I'd argue it was a sensible decision just for his own protection.

He lives in Central York and was 4 times the limit. All it takes is one pissed episode and he'll be under the wheels of a passing vehicle.
The law is not interested in protecting you from yourself (or, rather, it was not, until motorcycle crash helmets were made compulsory).

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

219 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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cmaguire said:
An engine?

It is an electric motor with a gearbox on it.
Not unlike a Tesla then really.

cmaguire

3,589 posts

139 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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northwest monkey said:
cmaguire said:
An engine?

It is an electric motor with a gearbox on it.
Not unlike a Tesla then really.
Just like that. Most Tesla drivers seem to be pissing about at 8mph.

Alex Z

2,072 posts

106 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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It’s not a motor vehicle, but it is a mechanically propelled vehicle - it has an engine.

Driving above the limit only applies to motor vehicles, but driving whilst unfit can apply to both.

Not forgotten all my police training.

Cat

3,134 posts

299 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Alex Z said:
It’s not a motor vehicle, but it is a mechanically propelled vehicle - it has an engine.

Driving above the limit only applies to motor vehicles, but driving whilst unfit can apply to both.

Not forgotten all my police training.
It's a mechanically propelled vehicle but s. 4 RTA (along with lots of other bits of road traffic legislation) doesn't apply if it's being used by a disabled person.

Cat

Pothole

34,367 posts

312 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Pointless PH debate on media story with dearth of information shocker!

Cat: please stop signing your posts!!!

zarjaz1991

6,836 posts

153 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Pothole said:
Pointless PH debate on media story with dearth of information shocker!

Cat: please stop signing your posts!!!
What's wrong with signing your posts?

Zarjaz

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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zarjaz1991 said:
Pothole said:
Pointless PH debate on media story with dearth of information shocker!

Cat: please stop signing your posts!!!
What's wrong with signing your posts?

Zarjaz
It makes you look like a complete

Neil Chambers

Cat

3,134 posts

299 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Pothole said:
Pointless PH debate on media story with dearth of information shocker!

Cat: please stop signing your posts!!!
I'll think about it if you stop over using exclamation marks!!!!! wink

Cat

austinsmirk

5,597 posts

153 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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scooters come in all sizes and certainly the larger ones costing £5000 or more are massive heavy dangerous things.

so yes, this is right: a drunk on such a thing can cause some massive damage- especially if you think they are more likely to be on the pavement, hitting pedestrians.

A scooter owner once hit a child, seriously hurt her and was sued by the parents.

she lost her house, in order to pay the compensation out.

we have more council go carts in this country than anywhere else in Europe.

daft as it sounds, I'd have compulsory driver training and mandatory ins for the damn things.