Helmets - different size shells vs padding?
Helmets - different size shells vs padding?
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Kiwi79

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916 posts

265 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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Which manufacturers actually make different size shells for each size vs just padding out a large shell? I used to have a AGV and that was goldfish bowl like in a small. Arai seem to but boy do you pay for it! Anyone else to consider?

cmaguire

3,589 posts

140 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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I doubt any do. Arai use the same shell for M and L with different padding.

Fire99

9,868 posts

260 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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AGV have 2 shell sizes, particularly with their K5-S, which I'm a fan of...

http://www.helmetcity.co.uk/agv-k5-s-hurricane-red...

bogie

17,105 posts

303 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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You have to check the manufacturer pages as most do fewer shell sizes in lower priced helmets and more in their mid to high end helmets. As few as 2 at the cheap end. High end 4 or 5 sizes

Zarco

21,154 posts

240 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Shoei and Suomy do different shell sizes and cheek pads of differing sizes, so you can tailor a shell to fit to an extent.

bogie

17,105 posts

303 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Bell offer custom fit on some of their high end models too. Not sure if/where its available in the UK yet

https://www.bellhelmets.com/en_ap/bell-custom-fit

Bad Biddy

28 posts

157 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Not in the UK yet. I enquired recently and you have to get your head scanned in the US.

Only option is the Bell Star (for full faced lids) which isn't a particularly high end helmet either. In fact it's pretty cheap and nasty IMO.

Would definitely recommend just putting up with the goldfish bowl or plump the money for a quality unit like Arai RX7

Wildfire

9,951 posts

283 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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I think Schuberth have 3 shell sizes and Shoei have 3-4.

Kiwi79

Original Poster:

916 posts

265 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Cheers guys, where are best places to buy these days. I've been to a few shops but always full of HJC and low end AGVs. Do people buy online and just make use of returns?

bogie

17,105 posts

303 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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I would go to one of the big warehouse places with loads of stock e.g. sportsbikeshop, getgeared, motolegends, motocentral, JSaccessories, bikestop. Just check they stock the brands you are interested before you go, some do not hold all brands

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

242 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Bad Biddy said:
Not in the UK yet. I enquired recently and you have to get your head scanned in the US.

Only option is the Bell Star (for full faced lids) which isn't a particularly high end helmet either. In fact it's pretty cheap and nasty IMO.

Would definitely recommend just putting up with the goldfish bowl or plump the money for a quality unit like Arai RX7
Given the state of my BELL race star after a low side and tumble I’ll never buy another.

Zarco

21,154 posts

240 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Mr OCD said:
Given the state of my BELL race star after a low side and tumble I’ll never buy another.
Care to elaborate? Did it crack in half?

Edited by Zarco on Tuesday 3rd July 21:54

Biker's Nemesis

41,478 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Mr OCD said:
Given the state of my BELL race star after a low side and tumble I’ll never buy another.
You should have seen my Arai RX-7 after my last crash.

Se7enheaven

2,095 posts

195 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Helmet should be designed to take the force of the impact and “fracture” , instead of your head on impact surely ?
Be interested to see what you mean by condition of it.
I’d be more worried if the helmet looked in too good a condition after an impact. I don’t mean totally wrecked but certainly showing signs that it had done it’s job.

Or am I talking shcensorede ?

Rawwr

22,722 posts

265 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Mr OCD said:
Given the state of my BELL
<smirk>

Mr OCD

6,388 posts

242 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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anonymous said:
[redacted]
I'll post some up later on today.

It cracked in two places (badly on the chin with a hole), visor popped off on impact so gravel and dirt thrown into my eyes, etc. In fairness it did the job, and I walked away with just concussion. However, given the state of it compared to my previous helmets I've smashed over the years I've decided to go back to ARAI.

A bit of research since has shown there is no SHARP rating for this helmet (!) and they are made in china these days, not USA. It's only when you look at the cracks you see how thin and cheaply made it is ... for a £600 lid it put me off.

Just purchased an ARAI QV which is basically an RX7v with different venting for road use.


andburg

8,774 posts

200 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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not sure if its representative and obviously has its drawbacks but the medium shark evo-one i have is so small a shell that i cant get it on my bonce with the chin bar in place.

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

221 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Mr OCD said:
I'll post some up later on today.

It cracked in two places (badly on the chin with a hole), visor popped off on impact so gravel and dirt thrown into my eyes, etc. In fairness it did the job, and I walked away with just concussion. However, given the state of it compared to my previous helmets I've smashed over the years I've decided to go back to ARAI.

A bit of research since has shown there is no SHARP rating for this helmet (!) and they are made in china these days, not USA. It's only when you look at the cracks you see how thin and cheaply made it is ... for a £600 lid it put me off.

Just purchased an ARAI QV which is basically an RX7v with different venting for road use.
Which Bell helmet did you have? Only in general Bell helmets seem to perform well in SHARP tests. Usually better than Arai, for example your new Arai QV, despite being 5 stars, still has lower side impact protection than my £70 Bell M5X.

In terms of pictures of the damage, we all love a good smash picture, but it doesn't actually tell you anything useful about the safety of the helmet. That's why they carry out scientific tests.

Back to helmet shell sizes. I have a Shoei GT air in large, and it gives me a proper bobble head.








seveb

308 posts

104 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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https://www.shoei-europe.com/uk/products/NXR

Shoei NXR for example has 4 shell sizes for 7 helmet sizes. Shoei have been doing this for years.