Watch out for the Dashcam Dobbers
Watch out for the Dashcam Dobbers
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chris4652009

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1,572 posts

101 months

chris4652009

Original Poster:

1,572 posts

101 months

PIGINAWIG

2,339 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Just fk

chris4652009

Original Poster:

1,572 posts

101 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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PIGINAWIG said:
Just fk
Indeed

PIGINAWIG

2,339 posts

182 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Hopefully nextbase will cease to be. I have a garmin dash cam in my car and have recorded loads of crap driving, people on phones, red light jumpers etc..... unless it directly involved my vehicle getting hit or a proper crime committed, I wouldn’t even think of submitting footage.

This is going to be Armageddon! I appreciate that if we all drive or ride respectfully and legally then we need not worry.

Personally I’m dead against this.

chris4652009

Original Poster:

1,572 posts

101 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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PIGINAWIG said:
Hopefully nextbase will cease to be. I have a garmin dash cam in my car and have recorded loads of crap driving, people on phones, red light jumpers etc..... unless it directly involved my vehicle getting hit or a proper crime committed, I wouldn’t even think of submitting footage.

This is going to be Armageddon! I appreciate that if we all drive or ride respectfully and legally then we need not worry.

Personally I’m dead against this.
I don't ride like a ~~~~ or owt but I do make safe progress (why ride a bike if you don't take advantage of it's size and agility) , I've seen these angry little people beeping horns and flashing headlights after being overtaken safely and quickly.
They are the people that will be dobbing folk in
Armageddon is the right word.

Mothersruin

8,573 posts

116 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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So all the bumholes driving at 45-50mph on NSLs that get over taken by someone maxing out at 65mph are going to send in hours and hours of nothingness.

Biker's Nemesis

40,320 posts

225 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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This is great news for all the sad sacks that drive around looking for dash cam footage to upload.

Everybody looking at everyone looking for them to step out of line so they can be "grassed up". Great, just what we need.

NNH

1,547 posts

149 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Mothersruin said:
So all the bumholes driving at 45-50mph on NSLs that get over taken by someone maxing out at 65mph are going to send in hours and hours of nothingness.
It's not like they have anything else to do with their lives

So

28,176 posts

239 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Mothersruin said:
So all the bumholes driving at 45-50mph on NSLs that get over taken by someone maxing out at 65mph are going to send in hours and hours of nothingness.
Of course, were the authorities to become overwhelmed with useless footage they might decide that actually the portal was a waste of time after all....

catso

15,303 posts

284 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Reminiscent of the old GDR where it was your duty as a citizen to dob people in to the Ministry of State Security for anything/everything - that ended well.

I'm pretty certain the vast majority of dheads uploading stuff on others are equally as 'guilty' of some form of dangerous/inconsiderate behaviour but can't/won't see it.

Maybe the dashcam warriors/road captains should have their driving monitored and the data made publicly available to ensure they are indeed virtuous?

chris4652009

Original Poster:

1,572 posts

101 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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I Just had a click through of the report process, you can use it to report potholes as well as "bad driving" but it's super long winded https://www.nextbase.co.uk/national-dash-cam-safet...
The sort of people that are going to be reporting stuff clearly have nothing else to do in their spare time.

MrBarry123

6,068 posts

138 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Let's be honest here though, the Police aren't going to do anything with this as they simply don't have the resources to trawl through hours and hours of grainy footage. This is a way of appeasing those people who feel they're doing a public duty in filming their own poor driving journeys.

Perhaps if a particularly serious incident occurs, the Police would look to make use of any related footage. Otherwise, it's just going to be stored and forgotten about.

bogie

16,801 posts

289 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Just how much manpower will you need to review the footage ? I dont get how it can scale unless you have some AI reviewing the footage. Its not like they are going to have 1000 people sat in the call centre reviewing it.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

135 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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MrBarry123 said:
Let's be honest here though, the Police aren't going to do anything with this as they simply don't have the resources to trawl through hours and hours of grainy footage. This is a way of appeasing those people who feel they're doing a public duty in filming their own poor driving journeys.

Perhaps if a particularly serious incident occurs, the Police would look to make use of any related footage. Otherwise, it's just going to be stored and forgotten about.
I agree.

However, I am still very much against the whole thing of a You've-been-framed style submission site.

People are weird and watching those camera pages on Youtube, genuinely 80% of the clips are complete non-events.

That being said, it would cost the police £18-£20k a year tops to employ someone to sit and watch nothing but footage of dashcams all day.
I can almost certainly guarantee that it would more than make its money back IF they were checking for every offense, speeding, on mobile phone etc.

pessimal

339 posts

98 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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sure i heard somewhere that they have been running this in wales(?) for a while and been getting results with it?

sjg

7,608 posts

282 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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bogie said:
Just how much manpower will you need to review the footage ? I dont get how it can scale unless you have some AI reviewing the footage. Its not like they are going to have 1000 people sat in the call centre reviewing it.
Include vehicle registration when submitting (the current Nexbase one does), then it's easy to tie different submissions to the same vehicle. I suspect most will never get seen again but knobbers who habitually ride or drive dangerously will end up with quite an archive of incriminating evidence.

Probably won't generate many convictions by itself but useful to quash a "out of character" / "moment of inattention" defence when they've got footage going back months of your 100mph wheelies on the way to work.

chris4652009

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1,572 posts

101 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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anonymous said:
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100% the way I see it too

LiamB

8,051 posts

160 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Looks like all overtakes will need to be made on the back wheel so the plate doesn't get seen.. wink

I'm also dead against this, my area is full of old busy bodies that will exploit the st out of this.

Justatwist

90 posts

179 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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I personally don’t think this is going to be an issue. The reason people put this footage on YouTube is to get views and subscribers, if they can no longer put it on social media because they have submitted it to this portal, then they lose their “fame” plus, as already mentioned, if their driving is not perfect then they run the risk of facing a prosecution of their own.