Very noisy neighbour, nothing can be done.
Very noisy neighbour, nothing can be done.
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chris watton

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22,547 posts

290 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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We have a detached house, but over the road, there is a small block of flats that house people on benefits.

Over the past few years, there is one particular guy who plays music very loud, so loud that we can hear it even when all door are closed, and there is another building between us.

We have called the council numerous times, most notably when he placed his speakers outside and played heavy metal full blast. In this instance, both the council and police turned up and he was subsequently given a noise abatement order. But for this guy, that doesn't matter, he still persists. We have contacted the housing association, and for a while, this helps.

Yesterday, he brought his speakers outside on his balcony again, and played his music at full blast from 9am to 6pm. My wife called the police, but apparently, now they can do absolutely nothing about it, they are powerless to force him to turn it down, no matter how loud the disturbance.

When we contact the council, they tell us to contact the police, and when we contact the police, vice versa.

It seems that legally, there is nothing anyone can do about this. It got so bad yesterday that I thought about taking a baseball bat and going up there and smashing the speakers. But of course, I would be arrested and end up paying compensation - it seems the law allows this antisocial behaviour to go unchecked, and if confronted, I have a feeling the perpetrator would have more rights than me.

Sorry, just had to vent at this very frustrating situation we have. I guess our only solution (legally), is to move.

Greendubber

15,312 posts

233 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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It's a council issue, they're fobbing you off.

Jasandjules

72,606 posts

259 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Council have teams who deal with noise - eg http://www.communitysafetyglasgow.org/what-we-do/r...

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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chris watton said:
We have a detached house, but over the road, there is a small block of flats that house people on benefits.
We'll bypass the implicit snobbiness of that... Who's their landlord? Housing association? Council? Private?

chris watton

Original Poster:

22,547 posts

290 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
chris watton said:
We have a detached house, but over the road, there is a small block of flats that house people on benefits.
We'll bypass the implicit snobbiness of that... Who's their landlord? Housing association? Council? Private?
That is a statement of fact, how is that snobbery?

Shaw Tarse

31,890 posts

233 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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chris watton said:
TooMany2cvs said:
chris watton said:
We have a detached house, but over the road, there is a small block of flats that house people on benefits.
We'll bypass the implicit snobbiness of that... Who's their landlord? Housing association? Council? Private?
That is a statement of fact, how is that snobbery?
Ignore him, he likes to comment on everything, post count does not mean quality.

chris watton

Original Poster:

22,547 posts

290 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Jasandjules said:
Council have teams who deal with noise - eg http://www.communitysafetyglasgow.org/what-we-do/r...
Yeah, we have been filling in noise nuisance forms obtained from the council for 5 years, along with video recording evidence. Yet he still plays very loud music, despite a noise abatement order. I have no faith in them.

As I said, I think the best solution is to move.

Pica-Pica

16,612 posts

114 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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chris watton said:
TooMany2cvs said:
chris watton said:
We have a detached house, but over the road, there is a small block of flats that house people on benefits.
We'll bypass the implicit snobbiness of that... Who's their landlord? Housing association? Council? Private?
That is a statement of fact, how is that snobbery?
Just ‘we live over the road from a block of flats..’ will suffice. We don’t need to know you have a detached house, or that the flats (according to you) house people on benefits.

anonymous-user

84 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Are they Bluetooth speakers ? If so, maybe try and interrupt his signal ?

Pica-Pica

16,612 posts

114 months

chris watton

Original Poster:

22,547 posts

290 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Shaw Tarse said:
Ignore him, he likes to comment on everything, post count does not mean quality.
I know, I do my best to avoid posters like that, life is too short to deal with such people.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Complaining to their landlord would be the first step - after all, their lease is bound to include a restriction on causing annoyance to others.

So who IS their landlord? Have you gone down that route? Even if it is the council, complaining to Environmental Health is not the same as raising it with the Housing Dept.

Toltec

7,179 posts

253 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
chris watton said:
We have a detached house, but over the road, there is a small block of flats that house people on benefits.
We'll bypass the implicit snobbiness of that... Who's their landlord? Housing association? Council? Private?
I wondered then took it to mean that they are not working therefore have no restriction on the hours they can be noisy at.

chris watton

Original Poster:

22,547 posts

290 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
chris watton said:
TooMany2cvs said:
chris watton said:
We have a detached house, but over the road, there is a small block of flats that house people on benefits.
We'll bypass the implicit snobbiness of that... Who's their landlord? Housing association? Council? Private?
That is a statement of fact, how is that snobbery?
Just ‘we live over the road from a block of flats..’ will suffice. We don’t need to know you have a detached house, or that the flats (according to you) house people on benefits.
OK, the only reason I mentioned detached was to emphasis the intense noise coming from a place around 30 metres away - they do not like next door to us.

Type R Tom

4,320 posts

179 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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chris watton said:
Pica-Pica said:
chris watton said:
TooMany2cvs said:
chris watton said:
We have a detached house, but over the road, there is a small block of flats that house people on benefits.
We'll bypass the implicit snobbiness of that... Who's their landlord? Housing association? Council? Private?
That is a statement of fact, how is that snobbery?
Just ‘we live over the road from a block of flats..’ will suffice. We don’t need to know you have a detached house, or that the flats (according to you) house people on benefits.
OK, the only reason I mentioned detached was to emphasis the intense noise coming from a place around 30 metres away - they do not like next door to us.
How many other people are affected? Why aren't they complaining? I would imagine in a 30m radius there would be quite a lot of people he is annoying.

Pica-Pica

16,612 posts

114 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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chris watton said:
Pica-Pica said:
chris watton said:
TooMany2cvs said:
chris watton said:
We have a detached house, but over the road, there is a small block of flats that house people on benefits.
We'll bypass the implicit snobbiness of that... Who's their landlord? Housing association? Council? Private?
That is a statement of fact, how is that snobbery?
Just ‘we live over the road from a block of flats..’ will suffice. We don’t need to know you have a detached house, or that the flats (according to you) house people on benefits.
OK, the only reason I mentioned detached was to emphasis the intense noise coming from a place around 30 metres away - they do not like next door to us.
‘Just give me the facts, man’

chris watton

Original Poster:

22,547 posts

290 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Type R Tom said:
How many other people are affected? Why aren't they complaining? I would imagine in a 30m radius there would be quite a lot of people he is annoying.
Sorry, yes, other people are complaining, the council guy who deals with this told us as much. Yet he can still get away with this with apparent impunity.

To be clear, we have contacted the landlord (housing association), where he was quiet for a few weeks after receiving a letter (they let us know they sent one), we have contacted the relevant people at the council, I am not sure what else we can do (again, short of moving or doing something illegal).

As the title, nothing can be done, despite doing everything by the book (endless time forms filled in and submitted, along with video recording evidence, police incident numbers over a 5 year period)

It does seem that if you're belligerent enough, you can get away with making as much noise as you possibly can with little to no real comeback.


Edited by chris watton on Monday 2nd July 11:38

Jasandjules

72,606 posts

259 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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How much time and effort are you willing to put in.....

chris watton

Original Poster:

22,547 posts

290 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Jasandjules said:
How much time and effort are you willing to put in.....
TBH, I feel that no matter how much time and effort I put in (legally), it would not make a jot of difference. I work from home, so subjected to it more than most...

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

277 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Can you see his balcony?