600LT discounts

[jonah35]

Hi all

I appreciate this is an early question and we may not know yet.

But does anyone know what kind of a discount will be available on a 600LT? I know everyone will say there is no discount etc but 675LTs are selling well under RRP now.

Also how is the order book looking for 600LTs?

I know a frustration of Mclaren owners is the residuals on current 540C/570/675/720

Thanks

[Sarnie]

Discounts????????

Good luck with that lol............

[RamboLambo]

Lol. Nice try on a wind up and Good luck with your discount hunt.
675LT sold out in 2 weeks and only 2 years later have fallen below list due to new 720S and 600LT launch

Let me know when you are going to a dealer I would like to see you evicted off the premises.
If your name is not already down you won't be getting one !

[ghost83]

Not a chance of a discount will be one of mclarens hottest cars!

[Crouchydc]

I currently have an order in for the spider (only getting a spider as the dealer is already sold out of coupes) so good luck with your discount hunt. I expect these to sell at list or over for a good few months after launch. Yes they will drop eventually as the production is only limited in time (12 months) not number so very similar to the huracan performante in that respect but most of those are still selling at roughly list price.

[andrew]

give it six months...

[RamboLambo]

andrew said:

give it six months...

Here comes the prophet of doom. Give it a day

off lol

Edited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 3rd July 08:41

[Jules360]

RamboLambo said:

andrew said:

give it six months...

Here comes the prophet of doom. Give it a day

off lol

Edited by RamboLambo on Tuesday 3rd July 08:41

A year or so back you were telling us that at 180k the 650S Spider was an absolute steal. "Get one while you can, when they are gone, they are gone". Well they don't seem to have gone yet and are 50k cheaper.

[DeltaOne]

Jules360 said:

A year or so back you were telling us that at 180k the 650S Spider was an absolute steal. "Get one while you can, when they are gone, they are gone". Well they don't seem to have gone yet and are 50k cheaper.

RLambo - Why would this McL be any different to the others, i.e. suffer quite a bit of depreciation?

[HighwayStar]

I find this whole having a pop at McLaren because their cars depreciate. At least they can be driven.
GT3's, Ferrari's... drivers cars so mileage sensitive that most owners don't actually drive them for fear or destroying value. I really don't see the point in possessing them purely was an investment. If I had supercar money, I'd enjoy what I bought and not worry about the miles. If I want an investment, I'd buy property and rent out. Saying that I'd like a GT3, which would be driven but I'd definitely want a McLaren too.

[Jules360]

HighwayStar said:

I find this whole having a pop at McLaren because their cars depreciate. At least they can be driven.
GT3's, Ferrari's... drivers cars so mileage sensitive that most owners don't actually drive them for fear or destroying value. I really don't see the point in possessing them purely was an investment. If I had supercar money, I'd enjoy what I bought and not worry about the miles. If I want an investment, I'd buy property and rent out. Saying that I'd like a GT3, which would be driven but I'd definitely want a McLaren too.

Of the 27 650s Spiders in the classifieds, 5 have covered more than 12k miles. Higher than the average Ferrari I guess, but hardly well used.

[RamboLambo]

Jules360 said:

Of the 27 650s Spiders in the classifieds, 5 have covered more than 12k miles. Higher than the average Ferrari I guess, but hardly well used.

How many 458s for sale and what are the average mileage ( pre or post clocking ) ?
McLarens are not only better cars they are far more exclusive.
Any Tom Dick or Harry can sit looking at their prancing horse all day long.
Not one of my neighbours took the blindest bit of notice of my ferraris but as soon as the McLarens appeared they all wanted to be my best mate lol
Without fail they all saw it as a major step up and asked if I had won the Euro millions.

Smiles per miles is what counts not cars as investments. That's what my boring property and pension portfolios are for.

If you can't afford the depreciation don't buy a McLaren like yourself

[Jules360]

RamboLambo said:

Jules360 said:

Of the 27 650s Spiders in the classifieds, 5 have covered more than 12k miles. Higher than the average Ferrari I guess, but hardly well used.

How many 458s for sale and what are the average mileage ( pre or post clocking ) ?
McLarens are not only better cars they are far more exclusive.
Any Tom Dick or Harry can sit looking at their prancing horse all day long.
Not one of my neighbours took the blindest bit of notice of my ferraris but as soon as the McLarens appeared they all wanted to be my best mate lol
Without fail they all saw it as a major step up and asked if I had won the Euro millions.

Smiles per miles is what counts not cars as investments. That's what my boring property and pension portfolios are for.

If you can't afford the depreciation don't buy a McLaren like yourself

To take your questions one at a time -

I said Ferraris are generally lower mileage, but since you ask, i can see 35 458 Spiders for sale, 10 have done more than 12k miles.

Which is the better car is subjective, I think the 458 is better. Sales figures seem to suggest i'm not alone.

Not any Tom, Dick or Harry can buy one, they are expensive.

I can't imagine anyone wanting to be your mate and we know you didn't win the lottery.

Before the 650 you had a Scud and then 570-4 PET. You talked of nothing but their values. You then thought you had found a bargain in a heavily discounted new 650, but have done your conkers on it. Now depreciation is unimportant to you ?

And yes, I could afford a McLaren, I just don't want one.

Edited by Jules360 on Tuesday 3rd July 13:49

[jonah35]

I have my answer now and some of the posters couldn’t be further from the truth

A 570s depreciates by about 30k in 12 months
675LT selling well under list
Mclaren are sat on a lot of stock

Anyone, repeat, anyone, can order a 600LT and there are no limits on production numbers other than they say 12 months but I’ve been told by another customer that they could extend this if they wish

I don’t think the residuals will be great on it and I think dealers are talking it up but it’s a bit different in real life

Sarnie, ring up a Mclaren dealership and ask them what they will buy yours into stock for- often they simply won’t want it back! I get it’s not an LT but I think a few people may have been swept up in the sales talk!!

[jonah35]

I have my answer now and some of the posters couldn’t be further from the truth

A 570s depreciates by about 30k in 12 months
675LT selling well under list
Mclaren are sat on a lot of stock

Anyone, repeat, anyone, can order a 600LT and there are no limits on production numbers other than they say 12 months but I’ve been told by another customer that they could extend this if they wish

I don’t think the residuals will be great on it and I think dealers are talking it up but it’s a bit different in real life

Sarnie, ring up a Mclaren dealership and ask them what they will buy yours into stock for- often they simply won’t want it back! I get it’s not an LT but I think a few people may have been swept up in the sales talk!!

[RamboLambo]

Like I say if you CAN'T AFFORD to run one don't buy a Mclaren, it's simple.
The only ones putting the brand down are those that have never experienced one.

You pays your money and you take your choice.
It's easy to follow the sheep and live in yesteryear. I choose not to and buy the best car at the time for my own personal circumstances regardless of brand or price hence I have a Ferrari F355 GTS manual with capristo, McLaren 650S spider and a Lamborghini Huracan Performante.
If I had to keep one for sentimental reasons it would be the F355 as my 1st supercar.
If I had to keep one for joining around and fun it would be the performante.
If I had to keep the best overall supercar it would be the 650S.
Do i want to get rid of the 650S for the 600LT , no not really but 4 supercars is getting a little over the top and a pain for garaging so time will tell what I may dispose of especially as I have a performante spyder also coming.
At the moment it could be a complete shake up but what they are worth won't really come into the equation

[Crouchydc]

jonah35 said:

A 570s depreciates by about 30k in 12 months

True

jonah35 said:

675LT selling well under list

Cars with silly high specs have lost quite a chunk but lower spec cars have performed better. Most new 675s were £280-300k with options and most are selling at £270k 2 years later, less than 10% in 2 years is not really "well below list" in my eyes but i suppose we all have different interpretations of that.

jonah35 said:

Mclaren are sat on a lot of stock

again true, mclaren are sat on stock of normal run cars however I expect that demand will outstrip supply in the first few months of 600lt production but it will then start to depreciate like 99.9% of cars do, still doesn't change the fact that the chance of you getting discount on a limited edition mclaren before they have even hit the road is nill.

jonah35 said:

Anyone, repeat, anyone, can order a 600LT and there are no limits on production numbers other than they say 12 months but I’ve been told by another customer that they could extend this if they wish

Not quite true, It is true that some dealers will accept deposits or applications from anyone, but that by no means means that you will get a car. It all depends on how many allocations the dealer gets and how many buyers they have. There are technically no limits on 812 superfast production but some dealers have already stopped taking deposits as they have more deposits than cars they expect to arrive. If I remember correctly the Cayman GT4 was also not limited production but yet demand outstripped supply and therefore no discounts and elevated residuals.

If you are genuine and not just trolling then you might have a chance of discount 6-9 months into production if they produce too many, on the other hand the market for them might go the other way and they might be completely sold out by then and used prices might be £50k above list. At this point in time nobody including the dealers know how the market will perceive these cars and therefore a dealer wouldn't even entertain discussing discounts at this time.

Good luck with your hunt.

[Ferruccio]

jonah35 said:

675LT selling well under list

Cars with silly high specs have lost quite a chunk but lower spec cars have performed better. Most new 675s were £280-300k with options and most are selling at £270k 2 years later, less than 10% in 2 years is not really "well below list" in my eyes but i suppose we all have different interpretations of that.
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You have chosen to ignore the dealers’ bid-offer spread, which makes a difference to your calculations above.

[Crouchydc]

Ferruccio said:

You have chosen to ignore the dealers’ bid-offer spread, which makes a difference to your calculations above.

You are quite right I have. Partly by mistake but also i know after enquiring about some of them that quite a few seem to be on SOR and therefore the difference is much lower.

[RamboLambo]

Speed.deman said:

I really don't understand why anyone responds to this chap? Just ignore him like another sub-forum did. He'll disappear here as he did there.

To be clear, I'm not responding him but just quoting his post as the context to the usual drivel he spouts. He's a fantasist or a troll. Potentially both.

If he replies to this post, I'm simply going to ignore him.

Well if you have nothing g of interest or constructive to add, bye bye then