Wedge conversion to quad su carbs
Wedge conversion to quad su carbs
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crazysilverback

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85 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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Ok, id like to pick someones brain on my issue, ive changed the efi system to quad su carbs but i cant seem to get a spark, i have a new coil pack and before the change i had a spark, any ideas as ive gone brain dead, the distributor resistor has the 3 wires going to it but the one from the efi resistor has naturally been taken off, also to keep the high pressure pump ive installed a fuel pressure regulator FPR014 injection to carburettor but this seems to build up pressure in the system before it pulses and releases fuel into the bypass, any ideas on this one smile

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

160 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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i am intrigued why quad su carbs seems a backwards step but liking the look very retro.


john

adam quantrill

11,609 posts

258 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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If you take the king lead off at the coil and put a grounded screwdriver into the top of the coil do you get a spark there?

If you do then check the king lead, the rotor arm, under the dizzy cap etc.

If you don't then re-check the coil primary circuit, do you get battery voltage with the ignition on?

crazysilverback

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20 posts

85 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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I’m fed up with the efi system breaking down, if it’s not a sensor it’s the afm or wire breaking down, I’m also looking at putting a Rolex c30bolt on supercharger on it later on

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

160 months

Monday 2nd July 2018
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how do you intend to drive it and who do you intend to source the rotrex from.


john

crazysilverback

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Monday 2nd July 2018
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https://www.tts-performance.co.uk/

This is who I’m sourcing the rotrex supercharger from

crazysilverback

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85 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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adam quantrill said:
If you take the king lead off at the coil and put a grounded screwdriver into the top of the coil do you get a spark there?

If you do then check the king lead, the rotor arm, under the dizzy cap etc.

If you don't then re-check the coil primary circuit, do you get battery voltage with the ignition on?
Battery voltage meter not working, got power going to coil when ignition on via multimeter but no earth

adam quantrill

11,609 posts

258 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Sounds OK so far the coil primary is earthed intermittently through the ignition amplifier, giving the pulses.

If you have a 12V LED that might pulse if you wire it across the coil primary, and crank the engine over.

Any spark at the top of the coil?

crazysilverback

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20 posts

85 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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I have a spark at top of coil smile) there a new amp at distributor as well

SuperApeInGoodShape

65 posts

241 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Be interesting to see just how hard it is to set up once you've got it running.

I've got a Boxer Engineering Quad carb setup sat in the garage & never fitted because i'm daunted at the thought of trying to get 4 su's balanced and set up!

They are supposed to be pretty good for power though, it looks like a long tunnel ram kinda design so i'm inclined to believe it.



As for the spark, check the centre electrode hasn't dropped out of the dizzy cap then Check the spark at each stage, i.e top of coil, then tother end of the king lead, centre electrode, etc

Edited by SuperApeInGoodShape on Tuesday 3rd July 19:20

adam quantrill

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258 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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also a squirt of WD40 under the dizzy cap

BIG DUNC

1,918 posts

239 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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As Adam Q says, it is just a matter of being logical in the fault finding.

As John says, this appears to be a backward step. The EFI system is not perfect, but it is simple and easy to fault find and should be fundamentally reliable. However, each to his own, and if you can set up those four carbs well then it should be great. Good luck.

Engineer1949

1,423 posts

160 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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just another thought if you are serious about going F.I. the carbs wont work with that but fun in the mean time.


joihn

adam quantrill

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258 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Yeah I used (twin) SU's for many years (Rover V8's mostly) and they work against atmospheric pressure. Keeping those oil chambers topped up is a job in itself....

Got any further with the spark? If you have a multimeter check the king lead resistance should be around 3000 to 4500 ohms.


crazysilverback

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20 posts

85 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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SuperApeInGoodShape said:
Be interesting to see just how hard it is to set up once you've got it running.

I've got a Boxer Engineering Quad carb setup sat in the garage & never fitted because i'm daunted at the thought of trying to get 4 su's balanced and set up!

They are supposed to be pretty good for power though, it looks like a long tunnel ram kinda design so i'm inclined to believe it.




As for the spark, check the centre electrode hasn't dropped out of the dizzy cap then Check the spark at each stage, i.e top of coil, then tother end of the king lead, centre electrode, etc

Edited by SuperApeInGoodShape on Tuesday 3rd July 19:20
Got spark ‘yay’ but now got fuel blockage in dam carb so now dismantlingfrown( im so looking forward to setting carbs up also I have a retired V8 specialist who’s dying to set them up for me, Then the supercharging will begin in winter smile

crazysilverback

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Wednesday 4th July 2018
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BIG DUNC said:
As Adam Q says, it is just a matter of being logical in the fault finding.

As John says, this appears to be a backward step. The EFI system is not perfect, but it is simple and easy to fault find and should be fundamentally reliable. However, each to his own, and if you can set up those four carbs well then it should be great. Good luck.
Cheers I’m going to have fun I know but love a challenge lol

mk1fan

10,770 posts

241 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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Megasquirt.

KelWedge

1,282 posts

201 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Emerald

KKson

3,460 posts

141 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Standard Efi and half a day with Mark Adams.......