Polic Health and Safety Insanity.
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Let me see. Our BiB have to face violent and sometimes armed criminals. They sometimes have to deal with life threatening situations. They have to mix in with drunk thugs on Saturday night.
Health & Safety don't seem bothered about that..... but ....
"A POLICE station flagpole will be taken down - after it was ruled that it was too dangerous for an officer to hoist the flag.
The flagpole at Woodbridge police station is fixed to the building and for many years a flag has flown on official occasions.
Flying the flag is a simple operation and involves an officer putting his hand out of the window and hoisting the flag - but health and safety issues have ruled that this is now too dangerous a task for officers."
So, what's the point of having the Police ? If *this* is too dangerous, they clearly aren't going to be able to tackle criminals, do high speed chases etc. or do *anything* other than sit in an office wrapped in bubble wrap.
I despair, I really do. What is this country coming to ?
Health & Safety don't seem bothered about that..... but ....
"A POLICE station flagpole will be taken down - after it was ruled that it was too dangerous for an officer to hoist the flag.
The flagpole at Woodbridge police station is fixed to the building and for many years a flag has flown on official occasions.
Flying the flag is a simple operation and involves an officer putting his hand out of the window and hoisting the flag - but health and safety issues have ruled that this is now too dangerous a task for officers."
So, what's the point of having the Police ? If *this* is too dangerous, they clearly aren't going to be able to tackle criminals, do high speed chases etc. or do *anything* other than sit in an office wrapped in bubble wrap.
I despair, I really do. What is this country coming to ?
Lunacy.
Just like the H&S Executive itself.
The same mindset that is behind speed cameras, speed humps, speed limits and movement of personel generally.
The fundamental problem with this kind of organisation is that you are literally encouraging interfering busy bodyitus and the promotion of rules for the sake of rules.
Having to designate a member of staff as some kind of monitor for hazardous toiletry and wash area cleaning products is clearly insane but typifies the brand of stultifying preventatism which in istelf charaterises the breed of feckless dunces who legislate and then execute much of this pointless claptrap.
Communist dogs, you see, damn their eyes!
>> Edited by derestrictor on Monday 2nd May 12:33
Just like the H&S Executive itself.
The same mindset that is behind speed cameras, speed humps, speed limits and movement of personel generally.
The fundamental problem with this kind of organisation is that you are literally encouraging interfering busy bodyitus and the promotion of rules for the sake of rules.
Having to designate a member of staff as some kind of monitor for hazardous toiletry and wash area cleaning products is clearly insane but typifies the brand of stultifying preventatism which in istelf charaterises the breed of feckless dunces who legislate and then execute much of this pointless claptrap.
Communist dogs, you see, damn their eyes!
>> Edited by derestrictor on Monday 2nd May 12:33
Health and safety at work contains some of the most cretinous legislation ever passed. However, having seen some of the lab accidents that have occured due to complete shitwittedness its easy to see how this legislation came about. Its the same in every walk of life, you always have to legislate for the lowest common denominator. Personally i think we should let the lowest common denominator fall out of windows etc and thus deepen the gene pool a little.......
A bottle of something suitably unspeakable for this man! Bravo!Devil's advocate mode firmly engaged...
In the States, fat people have sued McDonald's, for making them fat. Smokers have sued the fag makers for giving them lung cancer. Women have cooked their dogs in microwaves trying to dry them out, then sued the microwave manufacturers for not fitting warning labels against this.
What America gets, we get eventually.
Maybe all this H&S crap is not to protect us from ourselves, but to protect Themselves from litigation.
Maybe that's what speed cameras are all about? Nothing to do with road safety, but to pre-empt the first case of a driver crashing while exceeding the speed limit, then suing the Government for not stopping them from speeding.
Maybe its all our own fault?
In the States, fat people have sued McDonald's, for making them fat. Smokers have sued the fag makers for giving them lung cancer. Women have cooked their dogs in microwaves trying to dry them out, then sued the microwave manufacturers for not fitting warning labels against this.
What America gets, we get eventually.
Maybe all this H&S crap is not to protect us from ourselves, but to protect Themselves from litigation.
Maybe that's what speed cameras are all about? Nothing to do with road safety, but to pre-empt the first case of a driver crashing while exceeding the speed limit, then suing the Government for not stopping them from speeding.
Maybe its all our own fault?
Sorry it is all about lunatics running the world. I am all for safe working enviroments but the issue of COSHH, now do we really need someone to tell us bleach should not be drunk, and have a sheet if this happens to take to the hospital.
And the new one is Stress assesments for everyone, how the hell do you do that, I have staff who thrive on the urgency that others call stress. Now given that the HSE want a universal method.
Employing people in this enviroment is getting harder every day and when all the jobs have been sent abroard the HSE will be happy no accidents.
And the new one is Stress assesments for everyone, how the hell do you do that, I have staff who thrive on the urgency that others call stress. Now given that the HSE want a universal method.
Employing people in this enviroment is getting harder every day and when all the jobs have been sent abroard the HSE will be happy no accidents.
- Streakyhedders said:
Probably something really offensive, like a British one.
You jest....
We put a St. Georges cross in our happy bus (public order type with grilles and nasty bullbars etc etc) The flag was in the rear window.
The public complained stating that it was not indicative of the community, and as a result we had to remove it.
WE LIVE IN ENGLAND 
>> Edited by silverback mike on Monday 2nd May 21:54
H&S has some poor aspects, but generally speaking the legislation is well worth the hassle.
What most people may see as common sense, other people see as a burden - and its those people who generally cause the accidents.
Perhaps if the police station in question changed the flag thing from a duty, and made it informal (ie not necessary), volunteers would take it upon themselves to perform the task, and thus get around the H&S complaints.
What most people may see as common sense, other people see as a burden - and its those people who generally cause the accidents.
Perhaps if the police station in question changed the flag thing from a duty, and made it informal (ie not necessary), volunteers would take it upon themselves to perform the task, and thus get around the H&S complaints.
Oh no! Can't do that.
According to the Safety Nazi's, if you see someone doing something which could be unsafe you could be held liable for not warning them not them to do it should an accident happen.
I hope that Plod doesn't read your post and go ahead, if he falls out they might make you liable for suggesting it.
Obviously, the second part of that is a joke.
I think..........
It's mainly self-justification and bollox. Take the new rules for "Working at height".
There used to be written standards laid down exactly what was needed above a set height. Now, whatever the height, as long as a fall could cause injury (falling over can.
) a written assesment has to be made beforehand and a plan laid out for each set of circumstances.
In hindsight, maybe the flag-raising is covered by the new "Height" regs.
Boston has had a St. Georges day parade through the town by the Scouts for many years.
Not this year, probably never again.
Cancelled "Due to Health and Safety reasons".
Not just the Scouts it seems
According to the Safety Nazi's, if you see someone doing something which could be unsafe you could be held liable for not warning them not them to do it should an accident happen.
I hope that Plod doesn't read your post and go ahead, if he falls out they might make you liable for suggesting it.
Obviously, the second part of that is a joke.
I think..........
It's mainly self-justification and bollox. Take the new rules for "Working at height".
There used to be written standards laid down exactly what was needed above a set height. Now, whatever the height, as long as a fall could cause injury (falling over can.
) a written assesment has to be made beforehand and a plan laid out for each set of circumstances. In hindsight, maybe the flag-raising is covered by the new "Height" regs.
Boston has had a St. Georges day parade through the town by the Scouts for many years.
Not this year, probably never again.
Cancelled "Due to Health and Safety reasons".
Not just the Scouts it seems
silverback mike said:
Probably something really offensive, like a British one.
We put a St. Georges cross in our happy bus (public order type with grilles and nasty bullbars etc etc) The flag was in the rear window.
The public complained stating that it was not indicative of the community, and as a result we had to remove it.
- Streaky
spaximus said:
...the new one is stress assesments for everyone, how the hell do you do that, I have staff who thrive on the urgency that others call stress?...Employing people in this enviroment is getting harder every day and when all the jobs have been sent abroard the HSE will be happy, no accidents.
Perfectly accurate, valid sentiments.
Kenneth Flidiccius is bang on the money: HSE cretinology is bourne of the same putrid semgma as that which inspires the hateful dogs who swear fielty to The Church of Scamerology.
They are pointless, jobsworthy no-marks and represent the anti entrepeneurial edifice currently holding sway at the socialists' behest to entirely undo the small-medium sized private sectors, wherein the majority of employment and wealth creation exists.
Like Transport 2000, HSE is a cultural manifestation of sociological angst amd inadequacy, an almost masturbatory outlet for ranks of lower middle class yobbos to vent their pitiful, envious spleens against that which embrace rather than rejection would otherwise see Albion rise on high, rather than snivel apologetically in the embers of our post imperial glory.
Miserable, grunting w@nkers.
(Actually, that's a good point, if I do say so myself - have you ever come across an HSE type gimp without a humour or personality bypass?)
GRRRrr!!!
You tell 'em, Digby!
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