Importing a classic car - Duty costs - Definitive answer?
Importing a classic car - Duty costs - Definitive answer?
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milfordkong

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1,307 posts

261 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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I'm interested in importing a 1987 car from within the EU, there is a whole ton of information on this online but what I can't seem to find is a definitive answer as to how much duty or any other charges I will need to pay. There's a lot of money at stake so i'd like to be 100% sure if possible.

Has anybody imported a classic from within the EU recently and can help with the charges they had to pay to get the car UK registered and legal?

Thanks in advance.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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From within the EU? Zero. Not a penny. Duty or VAT.

You need to complete NOVA with HMRC within 14 days of arrival, but if it's been registered in the EU before, then it's £0, 0%.

UK registering it costs, though - You need to send £55 plus VED with your V55/5.

milfordkong

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Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
From within the EU? Zero. Not a penny. Duty or VAT.

You need to complete NOVA with HMRC within 14 days of arrival, but if it's been registered in the EU before, then it's £0, 0%.

UK registering it costs, though - You need to send £55 plus VED with your V55/5.
Thanks for the reply, very much appreciated. You're certain about this? I was just on Live Chat with HMRC and they said they simply could not tell me until I start the NOVA process.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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milfordkong said:
You're certain about this?
Yes. It's kinda the whole point of the customs/vat union thing.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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anonymous said:
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Apart from the tester being wrong, one of the advantages of the recent MOT changes is that a French CT (Post-May, but eventually <12mo) will now be accepted. A mate's just UK registered a car on a recent Romanian test.

milfordkong

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261 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Yes. It's kinda the whole point of the customs/vat union thing.
I hear you, my concern is being the victim of some loophole that HMRC take advantage of leaving me massively out of pocket - just trying to make sure i’ve got all the information.

TonyBrooks

83 posts

214 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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I bought in a this car from France a few months ago. This was a road legal car with loads of documentation and the French CT. Got it MOT'd immediately and completed the NOVA documents on line with nothing to pay - all very smooth.

Applied to DVLA and then my problems started. My mistake was not having the original french "Carte Griste" (their V5c) as the seller said he needed to give it to his authorities as it was being exported.

DVLA wouldn't accept copy of the CG and 3 attempts later including copies of french period magazines and correspondence from Club and a formal complaint process and then finding a very helpful lady who sorted it all out within a few hours.

Costs were £40 MOT, £55 DVLA fee and UK no. plates and of course transport.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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TonyBrooks said:
My mistake was not having the original french "Carte Griste" (their V5c) as the seller said he needed to give it to his authorities as it was being exported.
There's two halves to the CG. One half is the part he keeps and sends in, the other half is the bit that's kept by the new keeper.

Might be different on the new AA-999-AA SIV plates, but that's certainly how it was on the Dep't plates like yours. With the dep't registration authorities, exporting was no different to it being sold to a new dep't, really.

(Bloody gorgeous 310, btw. Six lights = 4 pot, or am I misremembering? 2003 Isere plates, do you know where it was before that?)

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Wednesday 4th July 10:36

milfordkong

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1,307 posts

261 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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TonyBrooks said:
I bought in a this car from France a few months ago. This was a road legal car with loads of documentation and the French CT. Got it MOT'd immediately and completed the NOVA documents on line with nothing to pay - all very smooth.

Applied to DVLA and then my problems started. My mistake was not having the original french "Carte Griste" (their V5c) as the seller said he needed to give it to his authorities as it was being exported.

DVLA wouldn't accept copy of the CG and 3 attempts later including copies of french period magazines and correspondence from Club and a formal complaint process and then finding a very helpful lady who sorted it all out within a few hours.

Costs were £40 MOT, £55 DVLA fee and UK no. plates and of course transport.
Thanks Tony, appreciate that. Stunning car too!

arguti

1,867 posts

215 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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If the car is EU manufactured or registered, there should be no duty payable however, the NOVA declaration needs to be done on line within 14 days of arrival - there is/was a £10 per day late declaration charge if you dont complete within 14 days.

Also, DVLA tend to retain or lose 1/2 the documentation you send them so make colour photocopies of all you send - ask me how I know.

Check the foreign registration and MOT equivalents carefully, some of the cars had either a mistake in the chassis number along the lines of a "2" instead of a "z" and the date of manufacture as listed by factory historical archives post dated the foreign registration date of manufacture causing a few NOVA and DVLA issues along the way requiring letters from marque and club experts to rectify.

MOT can be done on chassis number and make sure they specify kilometres instead of miles on the MOT and get the chassis number absolutely correct.


milfordkong

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1,307 posts

261 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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arguti said:
If the car is EU manufactured or registered, there should be no duty payable however, the NOVA declaration needs to be done on line within 14 days of arrival - there is/was a £10 per day late declaration charge if you dont complete within 14 days.

Also, DVLA tend to retain or lose 1/2 the documentation you send them so make colour photocopies of all you send - ask me how I know.

Check the foreign registration and MOT equivalents carefully, some of the cars had either a mistake in the chassis number along the lines of a "2" instead of a "z" and the date of manufacture as listed by factory historical archives post dated the foreign registration date of manufacture causing a few NOVA and DVLA issues along the way requiring letters from marque and club experts to rectify.

MOT can be done on chassis number and make sure they specify kilometres instead of miles on the MOT and get the chassis number absolutely correct.

Cheers - Just the sort of advice i'm looking for.

survivalist

6,124 posts

219 months

Wednesday 4th July 2018
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arguti said:
If the car is EU manufactured or registered, there should be no duty payable however, the NOVA declaration needs to be done on line within 14 days of arrival - there is/was a £10 per day late declaration charge if you dont complete within 14 days.

Also, DVLA tend to retain or lose 1/2 the documentation you send them so make colour photocopies of all you send - ask me how I know.

Check the foreign registration and MOT equivalents carefully, some of the cars had either a mistake in the chassis number along the lines of a "2" instead of a "z" and the date of manufacture as listed by factory historical archives post dated the foreign registration date of manufacture causing a few NOVA and DVLA issues along the way requiring letters from marque and club experts to rectify.

MOT can be done on chassis number and make sure they specify kilometres instead of miles on the MOT and get the chassis number absolutely correct.

Having imported a non-EU car with a km only speedo I had, and lost, the argument with my MOT test station as they insisted that they had no option to specify km in place of miles. Annoying, although I doubt it makes a difference as the car is fairly rare and it’s pretty clear that the odometer only reads in km.

TonyBrooks

83 posts

214 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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The NOVA form allows you to choose between km and miles

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Yes. It's kinda the whole point of the customs/vat union thing.
frown Explains why so many voted us out - they don’t understand it.