Homelessness
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Leroy902

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1,571 posts

133 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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I've been into a number of large/major cities in the UK recently. What on earth is going on with the HUGE number of homeless people!?...

It was never like this 10+ years ago, you'd probably see one if you're unlucky, but now!?... Good lord!

They all look like they're on crystal meth or something extremely heavy.
It literally resembles walking through the middle of Mumbai/India.

Why/how has this happened?

Is there anything being done about it?

Tim2k9

132 posts

109 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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I’ve noticed this a hell of a lot more recently. There seems to be a greater number of homeless people everywhere. Is this a genuine case of more homeless people?

Prohibiting

1,921 posts

148 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Manchester is terrible for beggars when I visited last month on a Stag party. Quite shocking really.

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

184 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Yes, homelessness has increased dramatically, and will continue to do so as long as the Conservatives remain in power.

Mercury00

4,250 posts

186 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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They'd rather spend their money on heroin than rent, and if you try to buy them food they ask for money instead. You can't help people who don't want to be helped.

Leroy902

Original Poster:

1,571 posts

133 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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I went into the middle of Birmingham. An 'epidemic' comes to mind. If it isn't already, it certainly will be at this rate.

Tim2k9

132 posts

109 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Mercury00 said:
They'd rather spend their money on heroin than rent, and if you try to buy them food they ask for money instead. You can't help people who don't want to be helped.
No I disagree with this, I refuse to give money but will quite often grab a sandwich from a shop I’m going in to pass across and it’s always been greatly appreciated.

eldar

25,291 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Mercury00 said:
They'd rather spend their money on heroin than rent, and if you try to buy them food they ask for money instead. You can't help people who don't want to be helped.
That is true, for some, no doubt. A significant number it starts with something trivial - sickness, car breakdown, moving to the new benefits system. A bit of debt turns into quite a lot of debt, then can't pay for rent, power, food or transport.

Leroy902

Original Poster:

1,571 posts

133 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Going out today (midday) reminded off some old movies (can't name one right now), a thriving, flourishing, prosperous world, and has now turned into a hell hole, crime ridden, dangerous to be out in.

I really would feel uneasy any family members (especially kids) walking through town centres during the day if it's bad as what I just witnessed today.

If you're unsure what I mean, please go for a walk through a town centre in a major city, its an eye opening experience!

Eric Mc

125,716 posts

295 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Changes to the way rent benefits are paid have dramatically affected the whole social rental sector.

Jag_NE

3,339 posts

130 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Liverpool was already like that in the early noughties, heroin abuse was rife and there were knackered beggars everywhere, a real eye opener for me at the time. Recreational drugs have continued to gain in popularity to the extent that taking coke when out drinking has become as normal as the drink itself for a lot of young people, I see this in local pubs and city centre bars alike. Some of these people will end up gravitating to the hard stuff. I don’t blame the uk government personally.

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Changes to the way rent benefits are paid have dramatically affected the whole social rental sector.
smile Genuine question Eric - how do you know that? Happy if you just point me in the direction of any journalism/articles that explain the impact thumbup

JulianPH

10,084 posts

144 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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SonicShadow said:
Yes, homelessness has increased dramatically, and will continue to do so as long as the Conservatives remain in power.
That is absolutely the most stupid thing posted on PH for a long time.

If you are unable to think about it, at least research it.

Leroy902

Original Poster:

1,571 posts

133 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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JulianPH said:
SonicShadow said:
Yes, homelessness has increased dramatically, and will continue to do so as long as the Conservatives remain in power.
That is absolutely the most stupid thing posted on PH for a long time.

If you are unable to think about it, at least research it.
Looks like it was meant as a joke.

I'm sure someone will be along blaming brexit for the what I witnessed!.

John A

196 posts

302 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Driver101

14,451 posts

151 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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I wouldn't assume that beggars on the main streets are actually homeless.

The vast majority aren't.

BoRED S2upid

21,069 posts

270 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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hondafanatic said:
Eric Mc said:
Changes to the way rent benefits are paid have dramatically affected the whole social rental sector.
smile Genuine question Eric - how do you know that? Happy if you just point me in the direction of any journalism/articles that explain the impact thumbup
Rent used to be paid direct to the landlord now it’s paid to the individual to pass on to the landlord or druglord if that’s their preference isn’t that the basis of it?

Also very powerful drugs are very very cheap it’s a downward spiral.

eldar

25,291 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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hondafanatic said:
smile Genuine question Eric - how do you know that? Happy if you just point me in the direction of any journalism/articles that explain the impact thumbup
My experience, from helping at a food bank... so not speaking for Eric...

The new benefits are supposed to me more like 'employment', to try to persuade recipients to move from benefits to work more easily.

One part is benefits are paid monthly, 4 to 6 weeks in arrears, so the transition from weekly or fortnightly 'pay' leaves a gap in between 4 and 8 weeks (or up to 12 weeks if there is a problem with the first try at monthly payments).

Most people on benefits don't have a week's cushion, let alone a month. Hence the start of borrowing to survive.


Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

291 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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There is no need for anyone to be homeless in the UK.

It is something they have got themselves into by either addictions, or by an inability to budget money properly. Or by illegal entry to the country.

It is not something that just 'happens'. There is always warning signs or notice periods for eviction/non renewal of lease.

There is always a reason and it is always the homeless person's lack of self discipline.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Mercury00 said:
They'd rather spend their money on heroin than rent
You don't understand addiction do you.