Triumph 1050 RS vs 765 RS
Discussion
I've had a 765 for about 1k miles and recently had an hour on a 1050 so thought I'd give my impressions for anyone that's interested.
Getting on the 1050 everything feels immediately familiar. Pretty much the same view ahead, with the dash and bar end mirrors being the same.
The 1050 seat feels higher (not sure if it is), the distance to the foot pegs seems a bit more and the riding position more upright than the 765. This is all good. I'm 5'10" and find the 765 comfortable coming off a K4 GSXR 750 but the 1050 is better still without feeling too upright.
Moving off, the clutch is much heavier and the throw on the gear leaver tighter and shorter, the clutch also engages near the bars which is nice. The 765 (I think they all do it) engages nearly at the end, which isn't great.
The showroom is at the bottom of a hill so I immediately noticed the extra torque. The throttle is also super smooth and this adds to a feeling of direct connection with the rear tyre which I don't get with the 765. Its nice trickling thorough town. It feels a heavier bike but at the same time easier to ride. I'd recommend a 1050 over the 765 for a new rider just because of this.
Coming on to the first 60 limit I roll it on in third, really good drive compared to the 765. Up thorough the box is nice, unfortunately the demo doesn't have the QS so I can't comment on the downshift assist. I think it'll be good though because the gear lever has such a short positive throw.
Not much wind blast at speed.
A new Mustang does a bit of a cheeky pullout from a side road in front of me, time to drop a couple of gears and show them what real performance looks like. It piles on speed nicely, again very smooth, front comes up a little but not enough for the anti-wheelie to kick in. Bit of wiggle through the bars. Doesn't sound as good as the 765. Not as much induction roar nor exhaust noise. Both have Arrow cans. The 1050 is slower to rev. I don't think when stoked up the 765 is ultimately any slower and it feels more exciting when going for it. Just as an aside I've seen the 765 dynoed from various sources at 125bhp at the wheel. The 1050 is quoted at 150 crank.
Heading for my favourite set of twisties the 1050 continues with the more grown up sensible feel. Its nice just to cruise on where the 765 begs you to pin it. I bought the 765 to have fun at lower speeds than the GSXR but its not working out that way. The noise and the way it feels ragging it is just too good.
First proper corner I throw the 1050 into I do 765 style and have a split second where I think its not going to turn. Its just the weight making itself known and a little more pressure on the bars is all it needs. That remembered its fine for the other corners however, even when you get used to the riding style required it still feels heavy compared to the 765. I have an after 8pm route which is very tight and twisty, minimal traffic at that time, which I love on the 765 just for the buzz. I don't think the 1050 would be as thrilling here but I'd be happier riding it on this road during the day than the 765.
This last point is I think because the 1050 feels a lot more relaxed. The ride is still firm but it seems to squash small bumps and ripples which the 765 puts straight through to you.
I reset the computer on the 1050 at the start of the ride and it showed 52 mpg at the end. The 765 would be 57 on the same roads. The computer is pretty accurate on a brim to brim calculation being within 1 mpg so far. I raise this point because the 1050 only has a 15L tank vs 17.5 for the 765. If you run them both to 2 liters left the ranges would be 150 and 194.
Again on a practical note the 1050 RS is keyless with an electronic steering lock. I don't mind keyless but if your leathers don't have any pockets it means having a backpack or tank / tail pack. I'm all for keyless in cars where you have shopping etc but not sure on bikes. Equally the electric steering lock makes me nervous from a reliability POV. On my ride a dash message came up saying weak key signal and I had visions of it bouncing down the road having been blown out of my backpack.
I wonder if the S version of the 1050 would be the thinking mans choice? No keyless to worry about and without the fancy suspension perhaps more in keeping with the relaxed nature of the 1050. Triumph are really clever with their pricing though making the upgrade model look like the sensible choice.
Getting on the 1050 everything feels immediately familiar. Pretty much the same view ahead, with the dash and bar end mirrors being the same.
The 1050 seat feels higher (not sure if it is), the distance to the foot pegs seems a bit more and the riding position more upright than the 765. This is all good. I'm 5'10" and find the 765 comfortable coming off a K4 GSXR 750 but the 1050 is better still without feeling too upright.
Moving off, the clutch is much heavier and the throw on the gear leaver tighter and shorter, the clutch also engages near the bars which is nice. The 765 (I think they all do it) engages nearly at the end, which isn't great.
The showroom is at the bottom of a hill so I immediately noticed the extra torque. The throttle is also super smooth and this adds to a feeling of direct connection with the rear tyre which I don't get with the 765. Its nice trickling thorough town. It feels a heavier bike but at the same time easier to ride. I'd recommend a 1050 over the 765 for a new rider just because of this.
Coming on to the first 60 limit I roll it on in third, really good drive compared to the 765. Up thorough the box is nice, unfortunately the demo doesn't have the QS so I can't comment on the downshift assist. I think it'll be good though because the gear lever has such a short positive throw.
Not much wind blast at speed.
A new Mustang does a bit of a cheeky pullout from a side road in front of me, time to drop a couple of gears and show them what real performance looks like. It piles on speed nicely, again very smooth, front comes up a little but not enough for the anti-wheelie to kick in. Bit of wiggle through the bars. Doesn't sound as good as the 765. Not as much induction roar nor exhaust noise. Both have Arrow cans. The 1050 is slower to rev. I don't think when stoked up the 765 is ultimately any slower and it feels more exciting when going for it. Just as an aside I've seen the 765 dynoed from various sources at 125bhp at the wheel. The 1050 is quoted at 150 crank.
Heading for my favourite set of twisties the 1050 continues with the more grown up sensible feel. Its nice just to cruise on where the 765 begs you to pin it. I bought the 765 to have fun at lower speeds than the GSXR but its not working out that way. The noise and the way it feels ragging it is just too good.
First proper corner I throw the 1050 into I do 765 style and have a split second where I think its not going to turn. Its just the weight making itself known and a little more pressure on the bars is all it needs. That remembered its fine for the other corners however, even when you get used to the riding style required it still feels heavy compared to the 765. I have an after 8pm route which is very tight and twisty, minimal traffic at that time, which I love on the 765 just for the buzz. I don't think the 1050 would be as thrilling here but I'd be happier riding it on this road during the day than the 765.
This last point is I think because the 1050 feels a lot more relaxed. The ride is still firm but it seems to squash small bumps and ripples which the 765 puts straight through to you.
I reset the computer on the 1050 at the start of the ride and it showed 52 mpg at the end. The 765 would be 57 on the same roads. The computer is pretty accurate on a brim to brim calculation being within 1 mpg so far. I raise this point because the 1050 only has a 15L tank vs 17.5 for the 765. If you run them both to 2 liters left the ranges would be 150 and 194.
Again on a practical note the 1050 RS is keyless with an electronic steering lock. I don't mind keyless but if your leathers don't have any pockets it means having a backpack or tank / tail pack. I'm all for keyless in cars where you have shopping etc but not sure on bikes. Equally the electric steering lock makes me nervous from a reliability POV. On my ride a dash message came up saying weak key signal and I had visions of it bouncing down the road having been blown out of my backpack.
I wonder if the S version of the 1050 would be the thinking mans choice? No keyless to worry about and without the fancy suspension perhaps more in keeping with the relaxed nature of the 1050. Triumph are really clever with their pricing though making the upgrade model look like the sensible choice.
I haven't ridden the 1050 (well not the new one) but I thought the 765RS was one of the finest bikes I've ever ridden.
Only pluses of the 1050 I would think is that sitting on it in the showroom it feels a bit physically bigger.
However you'd miss out on the noise of the 765 which is utterly, completely addictive.
Only pluses of the 1050 I would think is that sitting on it in the showroom it feels a bit physically bigger.
However you'd miss out on the noise of the 765 which is utterly, completely addictive.
I own a 765rs and borrowed a speed rs for half a day while my bike was having its first service. I agree with everything you have said, the speed is ultimately a much nicer bike to ride but the street as you say just wants to get you in trouble all the time.
The rs i had, had the autoblipper and it was sublime and sounded awesome, I also thought all speed rs' had them?!
The rs i had, had the autoblipper and it was sublime and sounded awesome, I also thought all speed rs' had them?!
I rode 1050RS and 765RS back to back on nice winding swiss country roads and I much rather prefer 1050RS.
Acceleration-wise there is not much in it, wouldn't be surprised if 765 turned out to be faster say 0-100, but there is more potency in the way Speed Triple puts down its power, there is more "meat".
1050RS does have significantly more torque than 765 and one can clearly feel it.
Look-wise - both are nice, but 1050RS just looks more substantial.
I have latest Daytona 675 and I ride old CBR600 on daily basis, so I like small displacement bikes as well, but given a choice765-1050RS I'd take 1050RS without second thought.
Acceleration-wise there is not much in it, wouldn't be surprised if 765 turned out to be faster say 0-100, but there is more potency in the way Speed Triple puts down its power, there is more "meat".
1050RS does have significantly more torque than 765 and one can clearly feel it.
Look-wise - both are nice, but 1050RS just looks more substantial.
I have latest Daytona 675 and I ride old CBR600 on daily basis, so I like small displacement bikes as well, but given a choice765-1050RS I'd take 1050RS without second thought.
Friend of mine has a 1050R (the one that has those funky light weight wheels) and I have an ‘09 675R. I expected him to murder me acceleration wise but was surprised when we were neck and neck. I am a few stones lighter than him though :-)
That said, his looks the far nicer bike in terms of quality, fit and finish. I’d say mine looks a bit like a toy in comparison. I don’t know if this is so relevant with the 765 though, it looks to have moved the game on somewhat.
That said, his looks the far nicer bike in terms of quality, fit and finish. I’d say mine looks a bit like a toy in comparison. I don’t know if this is so relevant with the 765 though, it looks to have moved the game on somewhat.
Ho Lee Kau said:
I rode 1050RS and 765RS back to back on nice winding swiss country roads and I much rather prefer 1050RS.
Acceleration-wise there is not much in it, wouldn't be surprised if 765 turned out to be faster say 0-100, but there is more potency in the way Speed Triple puts down its power, there is more "meat".
1050RS does have significantly more torque than 765 and one can clearly feel it.
Look-wise - both are nice, but 1050RS just looks more substantial.
I have latest Daytona 675 and I ride old CBR600 on daily basis, so I like small displacement bikes as well, but given a choice765-1050RS I'd take 1050RS without second thought.
Strangely I found the opposite. I also tested both back-to-back in Switzerland (I live there) and in the mountain passes the 765 was definitely the better suited bike for the tight spaghetti-like roads. The Speed Triple's old chassis shows through with its slower almost lazy handling in comparison.Acceleration-wise there is not much in it, wouldn't be surprised if 765 turned out to be faster say 0-100, but there is more potency in the way Speed Triple puts down its power, there is more "meat".
1050RS does have significantly more torque than 765 and one can clearly feel it.
Look-wise - both are nice, but 1050RS just looks more substantial.
I have latest Daytona 675 and I ride old CBR600 on daily basis, so I like small displacement bikes as well, but given a choice765-1050RS I'd take 1050RS without second thought.
Everyone has their preference though
JustAnotherNobody said:
Ho Lee Kau said:
I rode 1050RS and 765RS back to back on nice winding swiss country roads and I much rather prefer 1050RS.
Acceleration-wise there is not much in it, wouldn't be surprised if 765 turned out to be faster say 0-100, but there is more potency in the way Speed Triple puts down its power, there is more "meat".
1050RS does have significantly more torque than 765 and one can clearly feel it.
Look-wise - both are nice, but 1050RS just looks more substantial.
I have latest Daytona 675 and I ride old CBR600 on daily basis, so I like small displacement bikes as well, but given a choice765-1050RS I'd take 1050RS without second thought.
Strangely I found the opposite. I also tested both back-to-back in Switzerland (I live there) and in the mountain passes the 765 was definitely the better suited bike for the tight spaghetti-like roads. The Speed Triple's old chassis shows through with its slower almost lazy handling in comparison.Acceleration-wise there is not much in it, wouldn't be surprised if 765 turned out to be faster say 0-100, but there is more potency in the way Speed Triple puts down its power, there is more "meat".
1050RS does have significantly more torque than 765 and one can clearly feel it.
Look-wise - both are nice, but 1050RS just looks more substantial.
I have latest Daytona 675 and I ride old CBR600 on daily basis, so I like small displacement bikes as well, but given a choice765-1050RS I'd take 1050RS without second thought.
Everyone has their preference though
Yes, preferences, level of skill as well, I am likely to be too unskilled to sample and enjoy the full breadth of the 765 rapier steering.
In any case, 1050RS felt more the type of bike I'd like to ride on weekends.
bozzy. said:
Friend of mine has a 1050R (the one that has those funky light weight wheels) and I have an ‘09 675R. I expected him to murder me acceleration wise but was surprised when we were neck and neck. I am a few stones lighter than him though :-)
That said, his looks the far nicer bike in terms of quality, fit and finish. I’d say mine looks a bit like a toy in comparison. I don’t know if this is so relevant with the 765 though, it looks to have moved the game on somewhat.
2 years ago in my group one had a 675r and the other a 1050s both with sports arrow exhausts That said, his looks the far nicer bike in terms of quality, fit and finish. I’d say mine looks a bit like a toy in comparison. I don’t know if this is so relevant with the 765 though, it looks to have moved the game on somewhat.
The 675 sounded nicer and more racy but always needed thrashing. Off the mark if they both pushed on there wasn't much in it until about 120 from what I recall but the 1050 would pull in any gear much easier.
I rode the 1050 when I was in my first year back in the road owning a very lightweight 800 triple at the time and personally found it quite soft and definitely more sport than race like the 675
I rode the 1050 RS a couple of weeks ago , I thought it was incredible like you the demo I had didn't have QS which surprised me I found the suspension a bit hard for my ageing bones so took the Tiger sport out and bought that instead .
Just wish it had the clocks and keyless though of the newer model will keep it until the new one comes out!
Just wish it had the clocks and keyless though of the newer model will keep it until the new one comes out!
Gassing Station | Biker Banter | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff