Colonizing space
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UKBob

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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I doubt it will happen in the pretty picture way that has been painted by philosophers and scientists. Astronaughts loose bone density so fast, their bodies begin wasting away the moment they leave the planet.

rude-boy

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Don't want to live in space but christ i'd like to have a go at zero g ing

groucho

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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I regularly colonise space, a space in the sitting room, it's called a sofa.

parrot of doom

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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People used to say that the human body couldn't survive speeds of more than 30mph.

simpo two

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Just make the spaceship spin so centrifugal force makes artificial gravity.

Peasy!

tim.tonal

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262 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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I tried the moon, but came back cos there's just no atmosphere.

Wah wah wahhhh!

alexkp

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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UKBob said:
I doubt it will happen in the pretty picture way that has been painted by philosophers and scientists. Astronaughts loose bone density so fast, their bodies begin wasting away the moment they leave the planet.


That's only because we don't yet create artificial gravity - by centrifugal force.

UKBob

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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parrot of doom said:
People used to say that the human body couldn't survive speeds of more than 30mph.
Your point being...?

alexkp

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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UKBob said:

parrot of doom said:
People used to say that the human body couldn't survive speeds of more than 30mph.

Your point being...?


I guess that most things are possible given the will to succeed....

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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We already are colonising space, albeit in a very modest way.

In the future the human race will divide into two species - those who stayed behind on earth and those who ventured out into space.

It's inevitable.

Nuggs

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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parrot of doom said:
People used to say that the human body couldn't survive speeds of more than 30mph.

Given some of the ts I've driven behind recently, I would say that it is still a widely held view...

UKBob

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Eric Mc said:
We already are colonising space, albeit in a very modest way.

In the future the human race will divide into two species - those who stayed behind on earth and those who ventured out into space.

It's inevitable.
By colonising, I mean living there long term. With long term being 5 years or more, perhaps generations etc. A man who had been in space for 5 years wouldnt survive the journey back to earth, sadly. Unless he lived in a working version of simpo twos centrifugal force widget

simpo two

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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UKBob said:
Unless he lived in a working version of simpo twos centrifugal force widget

Oh it works alright, and it's available for hire. Unfortunately it's currently in Jupiter orbit so not available for 3 years. First million miles included in price; collision damage waiver compulsory.

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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The current record is just over 1 year. I'm sure that the two year mark will be passed before too long - especially once serious planning for a Mars trip gets underway.

However, as I said earlier, in the future there will be different species if humans, depending on the gravitational environment in which they've grown up.

_VTEC_

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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As soon as transhumanism occurs we will occupy the cosmos.

chief-0369

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Isnt developing a way of allowing space travellers to survive a direct hit from a solar flare the most challenging problem we currently have in allowing men (and women of course) to venture to mars and beyond?

cymtriks

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Spaceflight is a akin to flying in a wafer thin glass container packed with explosives through an endless cloud of cyanide.

Without faster than light travel it's going to be very very tricky.

And when you get there?

What do edible things look like?
What do predators look like?
Are the natives friendly?
Should we be armed?
Should we scout openly or in total secrecy, i.e. in stealth mode?

When we get to Mars I'll be curious about Oleasian (Face and pyramids).

tinman0

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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i thought the whole problem is radiation.

vixpy1

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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tinman0 said:
i thought the whole problem is radiation.


Yes, it would kill the sperm!

Eric Mc

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Tuesday 3rd May 2005
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Travelling in the Inner Solar System is frought with danger, mainly from the intense radiation generated by solar flares. Once out beyond the asteroid belt, the risk from solar flares reduces although there is always cosmic radiation coming in from deep space and the intense radiation belts of some of the giant outer planets, particularly Jupiter. However, with proper shielding, a human crew should be able to survive these different radiation hazards.

I would think the main problem would be coping with the length of the voyages to the outer planets. A trip to Jupiter or its moons would take at least 3 to 5 years depending on the positions of the earth and Jupiter at the time of launch. And then there would be a similar length return journey. I would not think that there too many people who are willing to sacrifice more than a decade of their life to one mission (including training) with most of that in virtual isolation from the rest of humanity.

>> Edited by Eric Mc on Tuesday 3rd May 21:13