Ebay 2nd chance offer - can i expect to..

[wildone63]

Ive received a 2nd chance offer on an item after the winning bidder backed out of the deal (he wanted the item posting abroad even though the listing was collection only)
Do I have a case to argue that I should get the item for the price that it would have sold for had the winning bidder not messed the auction up ?
Fair enough Iam being offered the item at my maximum bid price that I was willing to pay,and the difference is only a few quid,but its the principle iam getting at here,ie should I have to pay more than I should have done because of someone elses carelessness?

[glazbagun]

Their auction their rules IMO. Winners Curse comes with all auctions.

[bloomen]

It was your highest bid. If you haggled I'd just list it again. Someone else will be along who will pay it.

[Saleen836]

Tell seller 'no thanks' then wait for him/her to relist it as the excuse given regarding winning bidder is an old trick to get an interested party to bid the price up. When it's relisted bid again to the price you are happy paying

[SCEtoAUX]

As above. Classic eBay scam. Tell the seller to jog on.

I closed my eBay account a while back, partly because of this kind of thing.

[bloomen]

SCEtoAUX said:

As above. Classic eBay scam. Tell the seller to jog on.

I closed my eBay account a while back, partly because of this kind of thing.

I had two failed sales in a row the other day. Both from bots that disappeared. I second chanced both and they were turned down. I put them on for the buy it now price around the 'winning' bids and they went within the day.

A proper item is a bit different than a piece of toast that looks like Sooty or something.

[Mr Pointy]

wildone63 said:

Ive received a 2nd chance offer on an item after the winning bidder backed out of the deal (he wanted the item posting abroad even though the listing was collection only)
Do I have a case to argue that I should get the item for the price that it would have sold for had the winning bidder not messed the auction up ?
Fair enough Iam being offered the item at my maximum bid price that I was willing to pay,and the difference is only a few quid,but its the principle iam getting at here,ie should I have to pay more than I should have done because of someone elses carelessness?

If you're still interested you should eliminate all bids by the winner & only pay one bid increment above the highest bid by any other bidder. You shouldn't pay your maximum. If the seller doesn't agree then just move on & look elsewhere.

[xonuk]

Very similar to simple fraud. My opinion

[Alucidnation]

So you put in a maximum bid that you were happy to pay to get said item, but now because the winner pulled out, you want it cheaper?

[Zoobeef]

I never accept a second chance offer out of principle that 90% of the time it's the seller trying to scam some extra money.

[2 sMoKiN bArReLs]

Alucidnation said:

So you put in a maximum bid that you were happy to pay to get said item, but now because the winner pulled out, you want it cheaper?

Exactly what I was going to write.

These second chance offers can be dubious, but I've issued them countless times when numpty buyers back out.

As said, accept it or wait for the relist (assuming there wasn't another under bidder)

[wildone63]

Alucidnation said:

So you put in a maximum bid that you were happy to pay to get said item, but now because the winner pulled out, you want it cheaper?

As said in my original post iam prepared to pay the maximum price that I bid,but since the winning bid was not technically valid
(meaning it was never going receive the item anyways) its just a matter of principal that I should get the item at the price that it would have sold for had the winning bidder not been in the equation.You would probably feel the same.if you were in my position.
I think its common on ebay for non uk bidders to bid on an item located in the uk that is collection only without them realising it.
I don't really feel the seller is trying to pull a scam,if so he stood to gain very little moneywise,
the item was relatively low value,theres no shortage of the item on ebay at any given moment,
it sold for quite a bit less than the average price of the item,no doubt partly due to it being collection only

[SCEtoAUX]

Alucidnation said:

So you put in a maximum bid that you were happy to pay to get said item, but now because the winner pulled out, you want it cheaper?

No, he wants it at the price he would have paid had the other person not bid. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

[shtu]

Is this being done via Messages, rather than an actual Second Chance Offer?

From https://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/sell/second_chance_o...

"
How it works

When you send a Second Chance Offer, the bidders you've sent the offer to will receive a message asking if they'd like to buy the item at a Buy it now price equal to their last bid amount. It's up to the buyer to decide whether to accept the offer.

For example, if the bidder's last shown bid was £75.31, your offer will contain a Buy it now price of £75.31.
"

So you shouldn't be asked to pay more than your last bid. If that's also what your maximum bid was, and you're now not happy to pay that, turn them down and wait for it to be relisted.

And next time, only bid what you want to pay...

[Fastchas]

Also, it depends how many of your bids where against the winning bidder. If you both bidded against each other from, say, £30 but the winning bid was £75 then in my view (because it's mostly fraudulent) the second chance offer should be around the £30 mark.

[Cliftonite]

SCEtoAUX said:

Alucidnation said:

So you put in a maximum bid that you were happy to pay to get said item, but now because the winner pulled out, you want it cheaper?

No, he wants it at the price he would have paid had the other person not bid. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

And to me. But this is not how the default eBay "Second chance offer" thing works, thereby seeking to encourage seller fraud and sharp practice.

[anonymous-user]

I 'm dubious of second chance offers, I always think it is the seller shilling.

Edited by Thesprucegoose on Monday 30th July 21:07

[wildone63]

shtu - yes it was an actual second chance offer with a buy it now price equal to my maximum bid.

Also,as far as refusing the second chance offer and waiting until the item is relisted is concerned,i get your point but theres probably just as much chance I would be outbidded again as in the original auction.