Scratched ceramic bezel
Scratched ceramic bezel
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Gummi

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106 posts

121 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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I've managed to scratch the ceramic bezel of my Seamaster 300. I think it was caused my my partner's sapphire/diamond ring, there's not a lot else hard enough to scratch it! Is there any way if polishing it out? Called the local AD who's response was, rather pragmatically, try to put up with it for another year or two and have the bezel replaced during the service. Any other ideas?


UnclePat

511 posts

109 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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I don’t think there’s any way of polishing a ceramic bezel - at least, no way that won’t take ages and won’t leave the polished areas looking different to the unpolished remainder.

A new bezel insert is really the only way to achieve ‘as new’ looks, but a ceramic insert won’t be cheap, so you were given good advice to wait and see.

It’s entirely possible diamond - or anything else harder than ceramic on the Mohs scale - left a scratch, but ceramic bezels really are very durable.

Usually, I find that marks left are not scratches, but actually residue of the material bumped against left behind, deposited on the ceramic. If that’s the case, you may find it fades with a little time as it rubs off naturally. I’ve heard that a soft pencil eraser can also help remove such marks, but be careful not to rub too hard, lest you deposit more rubber on the ceramic.

LordGrover

34,011 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Warrior wound - be proud.

I was gutted when I scratched the bezel on my Explorer within hours of buying it. Now it's just fair wear and tear, and unique to me.

h0b0

8,872 posts

218 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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Isn’t that a bit shiny for ceramic? Anyway, if it bothered me I’d use a sharpie and wipe off the excess. After a couple of tries it would either darken the scratch or do nothing.

Gummi

Original Poster:

106 posts

121 months

Tuesday 31st July 2018
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The consensus seems to be to live with it! The watch isn't without other scuffs etc, mostly on the bracelet, so I guess it adds to the patina. With regards to it looking very shiny, the bezel is "LiquidMetal"; quite an interesting material which is mostly made of Zirconium (ceramic) with metal additives - https://www.ablogtowatch.com/looking-at-liquid-met...

h0b0

8,872 posts

218 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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I have a garage queen watch that is in perfect condition and never gets worn as a result.

I bought a second hand IWC as a “beater”. I was disappointed that it was too clean when I got it because I didn’t want to be precious about it and enjoy just wearing it. Within 6 hours it had a scratch on it from putting the car seats in my car. The irony being that I forgot to take it off because I would normally be wearing a Casio at that time. This event solidified the daily beater status.

Over 2 years it took everything I threw at it. Never worrying about it. I was liberated from the garage Queen.

After 2 years I bought a planet ocean. I decided to sell the IWC so had it cleaned up. For a couple of hundred dollars they made it look like new. Even the strap was in near perfect condition. I didn’t want to sell it as a result. But, it sold to a guy in Switzerland so it had to go.

Point being, I’m not precious about daily wearers. We can’t be. But, with a few quid they can be brought back to as new looking when we want them to be. I’d take jewelers advice and leave it.


Final note, still have the garage queen. It’s a Tag, so most wouldn’t think it would be a queen. But it has the El Premero movement. That takes 300 people 9 months to make. I look at my kids and think it must be 150 times better than them. It also has the same face as the Sports chrono clock in my car. I can’t sell it.

Wills2

28,012 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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h0b0 said:
Isn’t that a bit shiny for ceramic?
Ceramic is often very shiny (see Rolex sports bezels for details) but can also be mat in finish as seen in Panerai ceramic models but in the main it's polished and shiny in most applications.


4321go

640 posts

209 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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It’s a tool watch.

Ask yourself this; do you want your blower Bentley to look like it raced at Le Mans ninety years ago, or like it was constructed in the New Forest last week?

h0b0

8,872 posts

218 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Wills2 said:
h0b0 said:
Isn’t that a bit shiny for ceramic?
Ceramic is often very shiny (see Rolex sports bezels for details) but can also be mat in finish as seen in Panerai ceramic models but in the main it's polished and shiny in most applications.
I took a look at the article posted by the OP. I have been making incorrect assumptions based on appearance of the bezel.

I have a matte finished bezel which I like but wouldn’t turn down a polished version.

Hoofy

79,261 posts

304 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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h0b0 said:
I have a garage queen watch that is in perfect condition and never gets worn as a result.
You mean "safe queen". smile

h0b0

8,872 posts

218 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Hoofy said:
h0b0 said:
I have a garage queen watch that is in perfect condition and never gets worn as a result.
You mean "safe queen". smile
I was looking for the correct term but it didn’t come to my mind. My watches are stored in my wife’s closet. I didn’t want to say “closet queen” because it’s getting a little to close to “closeted Queen” and I would be at risk of outing myself.

Not sure which emotion that would elicit from my wife.


harleywilma

526 posts

265 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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Its a watch ,who cares...

Gummi

Original Poster:

106 posts

121 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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harleywilma said:
Its a watch ,who cares...
Odd comment for the watch forum. I'm sure most people here care about their watches, even if you don't.

Hoofy

79,261 posts

304 months

Wednesday 1st August 2018
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h0b0 said:
Hoofy said:
h0b0 said:
I have a garage queen watch that is in perfect condition and never gets worn as a result.
You mean "safe queen". smile
I was looking for the correct term but it didn’t come to my mind. My watches are stored in my wife’s closet. I didn’t want to say “closet queen” because it’s getting a little to close to “closeted Queen” and I would be at risk of outing myself.

Not sure which emotion that would elicit from my wife.
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Paul Drawmer

5,104 posts

289 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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It can often happen that a scratch on a ceramic bezel is a deposition of material than a removal of the surface. Very often the marks that look like a scratch actually fade away as the deposited material rubs off. The ceramic finish is very hard, just live with it and see if it fades over the next couple of months.

Gummi

Original Poster:

106 posts

121 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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Hodinkee's take on alu & ceramic bezels mirrors that of the comments above:

Hodinkee said:
Not only does it (aluminium) make for a much less shiny watch, it also better matches the toolish vibe of the overall package and will undoubtedly age with more character than anything made of ceramic (I love a scratched-up bezel). You are of course welcome to disagree, but I really appreciate the subtlety of the color choice, the matte appearance, and the ability to add my own patina over the course of my travels.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tudor-black-bay-gmt-review

lostkiwi

4,585 posts

146 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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If you don't like scratched bezels don't ever get a bronze watch...

thebraketester

15,443 posts

160 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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It wouldn't bother me personally.... A few scratches is what makes my watch mine and yours yours.... so unless you intend to sell it soon I wouldn't worry about it.

A watch without a mark is a watch without a story...... bowtie


Enjoy it.

Gummi

Original Poster:

106 posts

121 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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thebraketester said:
It wouldn't bother me personally.... A few scratches is what makes my watch mine and yours yours.... so unless you intend to sell it soon I wouldn't worry about it.

A watch without a mark is a watch without a story...... bowtie


Enjoy it.
Oh, I'm not planning on selling it. It was a gift for a significant birthday and my first "proper" watch. I guess the collection on nicks and scratches tell the story of the watch's life and, by extension, mine.

UnclePat

511 posts

109 months

Thursday 2nd August 2018
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Whilst I try to reasonably avoid them, scratches are inevitable, less noticeable to others and not worth getting too worked-up about on a ‘tool’ watch (a different matter perhaps on a finely-finished dress watch). At the same time, there’s a load of self-comforting balls talked about scratches. 99% are of the mundane, everyday sort - e.g. sustained from a shopping trolley, or hitting a tap whilst washing your hands after a slash - rather than being a life-affirming remembrance of that time you climbed Everest or took down a plane hi-jacker with your bare hands.