HP4, 15 1000RR, 18 Gsxrr, Aprillia V4 etc

[Broccers]

Hi - anything to watch out for when buying the Hp4? I think the carbon will be worth the extra from a residual point of view but does it add anything else owenership wise?

Have a K7 gsxr 1000 and its a great bike but fancy something to put alongside it for a while. Test rode a 2018 gsxr 1000 r the other week and wasnt that blown away by its low down / mid range which is where it'll be ridden most of the time - hows the HP4 compare? I realise maybe a 2015 1000rr is the same bike essentially?

Any input guys? Any bikes I am missing for around 15k? Aprillia V4 makes a good noise....

Cheers,

Simon

[dibblecorse]

Low down and mid range .... Taken a look at the 1299S ??? OR even a late 1098R but not sure budget will get there ,,,,

[PIGINAWIG]

Aprilia just the one ‘l’

[Broccers]

dibblecorse said:

Low down and mid range .... Taken a look at the 1299S ??? OR even a late 1098R but not sure budget will get there ,,,,

I like the look of Duccatis but not the ownership prospect.

Cheers for the spelling tip above - dropped another in to ruin your afternoon

[dibblecorse]

Broccers said:

dibblecorse said:

Low down and mid range .... Taken a look at the 1299S ??? OR even a late 1098R but not sure budget will get there ,,,,

I like the look of Duccatis but not the ownership prospect.

Cheers for the spelling tip above - dropped another in to ruin your afternoon

GET IT RIGHT !!!

DOOOO-CART-EEEEEEEEEEEE

[PIGINAWIG]

Broccers said:

I like the look of Duccatis but not the ownership prospect.

Cheers for the spelling tip above - dropped another in to ruin your afternoon

Nah, I’m good!
But spell Donington with two ‘n’s and I go wild

[Dakkon]

Try and take one for a test ride and see what you think, a guy brought an HP4 to a bike meet recently and I had a poke about, it does look very nice.

[Broccers]

I think I am set on a HP4 carbon to be honest but its good to see others opinions. I would only borrow one from a dealer if I was going to buy and as most are overpriced at the moment (cos summer and race hype) its not an option.

The RSv4 tho is lovely - anyone got one of those? Seem to depreciate at an alarming rate and have complex electronics.

[trickywoo]

If you are looking for negatives insurance could be a potential problem on the HP4.

The Aprilia has a reputation for expensive unreliability. Some people have no issues others have dropped valves and other big mechanical engine problems. Lots of people say while they are fast they don't feel it.

Are you set on race rep style? 1290 Superduke would tick the mid range box.

[Broccers]

Thanks. Insurance is 170.00 on a 17 grand 14 plate hp4 which isn't bad!

Had a ktm smt and I'm now not so keen on ktms as I was before I bought that. A comfortable sports bike is ideal. Not so sold on r1ms for that reason.

[MrGman]

Have you tried the R1?

I've just recently bought one and have been pleasantly surprised with it on the roads.

[mckeann]

The RSV4 WILL let you down. My mates 16 plate with 1500 miles has an undiagnosed engine rattle.

Buy an R1 if you want character with Japanese reliability.

Buy an S1000RR if you just want a monster engine. Tbh, the 15 onwards is a better bike than the HP4 but obvious less exclusive.

[Broccers]

MrGman said:

Have you tried the R1?

I've just recently bought one and have been pleasantly surprised with it on the roads.

I tried an 18 mt-10 but wasn't blown away by its engine but then it was totally standard. Which R one you got?

[MrGman]

I’ve got 2016 R1 have ridden a 2018 m though and that’s a fantastic bike the suspension really impressed me and it’s got the autoblipper.

[Biker's Nemesis]

PIGINAWIG said:

Nah, I’m good!
But spell Donington with two ‘n’s and I go wild

Donnington!

HP4 Carbon all day out of that lot.

[CQ8]

I've got a 2017 Aprilia RSV4 RF. I was thinking about a Yamaha R1M but then there were some deals on the 2017 RF's at the end of last year so the price of a second hand R1M was the same as a brand new Aprilia. Still love the R1M but very happy with my choice.

People have had issues with these but so far mine has been 100%. I have the Akra exhaust and it sounds awesome and it feels plenty fast for me. I've ridden it on the road but it's now converted to a track bike. Absolutely love it. But I'm coming from a Ducati 916 SPS and a Ducati 848 so coming from the GSX-R may not be such a big step. It does have nearly 200bhp but it's no lightweight. I do like the latest electronics package it has (previous bikes had none) and the TFT dash is very nice.

In the past, I had a Aprilia RSV-R Factory which was 100% reliable.

Road Trim


Track Trim


Valencia

[Broccers]

Thanks for the reply. The sound they make is mega with the right pipe.

I'm curious about the track GPS suspension settings for those. Is it a gimmick or quite good? The app on playstore has mixed reviews.

[CQ8]

Broccers said:

I'm curious about the track GPS suspension settings for those. Is it a gimmick or quite good? The app on playstore has mixed reviews.

It's the traction control you can set, the suspension is not electronic. The app has a number of tracks saved in it and on those tracks you can set the traction control on a different level for every corner. If you're a professional racer then perhaps it makes a difference but I'm pretty useless so I don't bother with it! The app is a decent lap timer though, it was with a tenth of my friend's VBox. But it the pairing is temperamental and a to use it is abit clunky. I look on it as an extra toy. It's not as good as the datalogger on the R1M.

[MattOz]

Simon,

I went K7 1000 to HP4 and haven't regretted it. Aprilia is too small for me, but sounds amazing with a pipe. Would go HP4 from your choices.

Matt

[Broccers]

MattOz said:

Simon,

I went K7 1000 to HP4 and haven't regretted it. Aprilia is too small for me, but sounds amazing with a pipe. Would go HP4 from your choices.

Matt

Anything you miss? Just got my brakes sorted and it stops now.