Pirelli supercorsa sp Tyres .

[mak]

Since getting back into bikes just over 4 years ago, I have chopped and changed the garage around with various machines, most have come with a variety of tyres over the last 4 years but regardless of condition I swap them out for m7rr,s . The only reason I went down the 7rr route was from reading reviews.

Cracking tyre and more than enough for the road, I've had a few slips twitches and o st moments like most but hardly anything visible and probably only noticeable from the seat of your pants .

I really would have argued the toss last week that you would be hard pushed to feel the difference on the road between a full blown track road tyre and a very good road tyre. fk me how wrong I was My new bike came with a set of new supercorsa's and I can honestly say after a 100 mile of scrubbing them in they are mind blowing.

I understand the limited mileage and poor wet/ cold weather performance but its put me right off the m77rr's , I might look for an alternative happy medium but for now the new bike is having another sp on the rear until the front wears. Has any other relative newbie back to biking experienced these tyres like me or am I just years behind in my tyre choice

[mak]

I am guessing most don't use them because of the abysmal mileage they achieve, very immature but I couldn't help but have 3 laps of the motorway island near me and that was enough to start a slight bubbling on the front tyre, at that rate I guess I need to have some fun while they last .

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[patchb]

I loved my set of SP’s I had on, I found you need to run them at a lower pressure than a less track focused tyre on the roads or they feel horrible.

I didn’t think the wear was too bad, I managed 3 trackdays and probably 4-500 Road miles on mine, top end of Inters pace on track but that’s only on a 600 and I do tend to be quite smooth with my throttle inputs

Chucked a set of SC’s on before my last session on Saturday and I was in a bit of a rush so only had the warmers on them for about 5 minutes before my session so pressures were all over the place, you can instantly feel how much better they are on track compared to the SP though.

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[Birky_41]

I've been saying this for ages on a few posts

Great tyres the m7rrs but when people say you don't need more I can only put it down to their riding style as I won't use them now except winter or touring

Supercorsa sps or alternative equivalent brands of the same compound are simply another level

[bogie]

My MV came on Supercorsa SPs, and I only do 2500 road miles a year on it in nice weather. On the 3rd set now at 7.5k miles, I really like them too. You wouldn't put them on a high mileage commuter of course, but £250 a set to go on once a year at service/MOT time is more than reasonable for the level of performance (which I probably dont really use on the road)

I would be interested to know the real life mileage out of the new Diablo Rosso Corsa II, which are supposed to be "nearly" as good as the SP, but more road temperature orientated. If they were 90% as good with 2x the mileage then I would be tempted to try them....maybe next year

[mak]

At what outside temperatures do these tyres start to become a bit dodgy for a road ride, to be fair my 1st experience of these tyres is in stinking hot weather and a couple of evening rides with not much traffic to stop a good pace.

I think these tyres might actually be a liability for me on the road, possibly egging me on to push my luck, I have a new m7rr on the rear of my 1290 sdr but after that's gone i will have a think about what to stick on it.

[Birky_41]

anonymous said:

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Same tyre toxicnerve. SP is a road compound and what manufacturers run

[trickywoo]

mak said:

At what outside temperatures do these tyres start to become a bit dodgy for a road ride

Most people say below 12C they struggle.

Bridgestone S21, Michelin RS and Avon 3D Sport are good road tyre options if you don’t fancy M7RR.

[Gavia]

mak said:

I am guessing most don't use them because of the abysmal mileage they achieve, very immature but I couldn't help but have 3 laps of the motorway island near me and that was enough to start a slight bubbling on the front tyre, at that rate I guess I need to have some fun while they last .

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That’s not bubbling, the tyre is just wearing a little, as you scrub the tyre in.

You’re also comparing different tyres I think. The nearest that Metzeler do to a SuperCorsa is the Racetec RR, isn’t the M7RR a similar tyre to the Rosso Corsa? As Metzeler and Pirelli are made by the same people, there isn’t much to choose between their tyres IMO.

[R1 Dave]

I ran M7RR on my rsv4 and loved them, my R1 came on supercorsas and they're just another level as you say. I did put M7RRs on for my IOM TT trip last year and they felt awful, the slowed the steering right down and I just couldn't get confidence in the front, it always felt like the front wanted to wash wide. It never did and I suspect it could be remedied with a bit of fiddling with the suspension but I removed them as soon as I got back and put the pirellis back on

[mak]

Gavia said:

That’s not bubbling, the tyre is just wearing a little, as you scrub the tyre in.

You’re also comparing different tyres I think. The nearest that Metzeler do to a SuperCorsa is the Racetec RR, isn’t the M7RR a similar tyre to the Rosso Corsa? As Metzeler and Pirelli are made by the same people, there isn’t much to choose between their tyres IMO.

Yes its not a fair comparison to judge the m7rr with this tyre I do agree, and like you say they offer an alternative to the pirelli brand , I was just a little shocked by how good they feel after being a firm believer that any decent sports / road tyre is more than enough for the road, I would also say im a bit late to the party and everybody apart from me new this anyway

I would love to stick them on my 1290 sdr but I think that bike is capable of squaring the centres off to quickly for me to stomach .

[bogie]

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When mine get like that ive just changed them as a pair each time - the logic being a) saves another trip to the bike shop and b) usually bike shop has a deal on buying a pair and fitted at same time...can save £30 or so which makes up for leaving some wear on the front

[SAS Tom]

I guess it’s about value to most of us that don’t use them. I know they’re better in conditions like we have now but I prefer the fact I don’t have to adjust that much when it rains. I also wouldn’t be happy replacing tyres within 1500 miles when I can get as much grip as I need from tyres that last 3 times as long.

[R1 Dave]

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Personally I'd change the rear now and keep the front for a while, the fronts have sod all tread from new so it's probably not used as much tread as you think.

My last rear lasted 2,250 miles but it went from passing an MOT to the tread falling off in the centre within about 50 miles! Once they get near to the wear blocks just off centre go easy as too much of a handful and the tread just peels off in the middle exposing the cord.

[Birky_41]

anonymous said:

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Yes get another rear on. Typically 2 rear to a front then change the pair to what you like. Saves a bit too

If you like that grip try conti race attack endurance. I've been impressed with mine so far

[mak]

Birky_41 said:

Yes get another rear on. Typically 2 rear to a front then change the pair to what you like. Saves a bit too

If you like that grip try conti race attack endurance. I've been impressed with mine so far

Are these what you run on your tuono Birky ?

[Birky_41]

mak said:

Are these what you run on your tuono Birky ?

Yes mate. Love the supercorsa but they have such little tread they don't last long and are more expensive

Conti are actually fairly good in wet. Not metz m7rr confidence inspiring but ALOT better than supercorsa

In the dry when you get a lick on they give you that nice squirm feel. I run 33f 32r cold in current weather and it feels good. Only cooks rear when you ride like a bell. Got a pic on the phone somewhere but I get sent so much filth daily it's lost somewhere amongst all that

[mak]

Birky_41 said:

mak said:

Are these what you run on your tuono Birky ?

Yes mate. Love the supercorsa but they have such little tread they don't last long and are more expensive

Conti are actually fairly good in wet. Not metz m7rr confidence inspiring but ALOT better than supercorsa

In the dry when you get a lick on they give you that nice squirm feel. I run 33f 32r cold in current weather and it feels good. Only cooks rear when you ride like a bell. Got a pic on the phone somewhere but I get sent so much filth daily it's lost somewhere amongst all that

You cant beat a phone full of filth mate , Will look out for those tyres when my rears cooked .

[Birky_41]

anonymous said:

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Haha me and that El Negro

Gets me alot of bans that one