Old or Modern on a small budget
Old or Modern on a small budget
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Tango7

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693 posts

248 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Hi, I don't know too much about watches but looking to get one for my son's 21st. Budget isn't massive at £500 but is it better spent on an old/2nd hand one or a new modern one? He likes the plain classic look watches.

Not that I'd expect him to sell it at any time but it would be nice to know its still worth its money rather than dropping like a stone. Automatic movements look great too rather than quartz purely from the engineering inside them.

Any suggestions of makes or models?
Thanks

Ligne

349 posts

178 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Vintage, steel Omega Seamaster would be my choice in that budget.

vixen1700

27,757 posts

292 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Ligne said:
Vintage, steel Omega Seamaster would be my choice in that budget.
If it was me and my 21st, I'd be very happy with this:

https://www.chrono24.co.uk/omega/1956s-vintage-sea...


Modern, but an old design:

https://www.stowa.de/en/Antea/

My wife is getting me a Stowa Antea 1919 for my birthday next month. smile

yosamuel

103 posts

149 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical, £375

https://shop.hodinkee.com/blogs/journal/hamilton-k...

AmosMoses

4,056 posts

187 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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A decent new Prospex Seiko would be perfect for this budget.

Tango7

Original Poster:

693 posts

248 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Thanks for the suggestions and links. The Omega looks great and definitely the style I think he's after. Presumably its a good thing that its been reconditioned (new glass, painted dial and new strap)?

Ligne

349 posts

178 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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Strap and glass being done is fine, personally I'd avoid a repainted dial when there are so many on the market.

rowley birkin

513 posts

122 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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The case on that Seamaster is very small - 31mm.

vixen1700

27,757 posts

292 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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rowley birkin said:
The case on that Seamaster is very small - 31mm.
True, that would look very small on somebody these days. frown

UnclePat

511 posts

109 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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£500 will buy a lot of good value in a vintage watch - there are plenty of lovely old Omegas for that money, some even in solid 9ct or 14ct gold, and 33-35mm is a perfect size for a classy, tasteful look.



Be careful to do your research and buy the right one. Buying vintage can be a minefield. Unless you have written proof of a movement service (and from sometime who knows what they’re doing, not some hamfisted amateur), then really you should be budgeting another £150-£200 for a service on top as well.

A lot of old watches have had a painted redial, replacement hands & crown. Unless you’re buying as a collector or expect to re-sell with original provenance, then it doesn’t really matter, but sometimes the job done can be crap - badly painted uneven dials, too-large crowns and completely the wrong hand-set. Also, they’re hard to make water-resistant to any great standard.

If you value observing the movement via a sapphire display case-back, then you won’t see too many vintage models with those.

The suggestion above of Stowa is by far the best course of action. £600 will buy you a classic-looking, brand-new watch, water-resistant, under warranty & good for 7-10 years before another service. You can get a rock-solid, easily-serviced mechanical movement with display back, and Stowa are a company with great customer-service & a long history.

https://www.stowa.de/en/Marine+36+classic+arabic+w...

Pay another £120 and you can get a higher-grade (i.e. better accuracy, parts, materials & decoration) movement and heat-blued hands as well.

Just shy of £1,000 gets you a solid-silver dial & personally engraved rotor: https://www.stowa.de/en/Marine+Klassik+40+silver+d...



Terrific value for money.

Christopher Ward do decent, ‘classic looking’ three-hand watches too.

Edited by UnclePat on Sunday 5th August 14:52

ZesPak

26,005 posts

218 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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How about a Seiko presage? Most are well within budget.

Like a Seiko SRPB41J1



A brand new watch with inhouse movement.

vixen1700

27,757 posts

292 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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UnclePat said:
Lovely.

A Stowa Marine and Flieger are on my list of must haves.

Would get one sooner, but after trying on a Longines Heritage Conquest in France last week, that's my next buy. smile

toon10

7,003 posts

179 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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How about a Tissot Visodate? New but classic looks.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tissot-Gents-Watch-Visoda...

This one is under budget too. I have a couple of dress watches, one is an old and worthless manual wind HMT and the other is a Raymond Weil on black leather. I'd like another brown leather / croc strap watch for more dressy occasions. I love the Longines Master Collection but they are double/triple the budget so have looked at the Tissot myself as a cheaper alternative that I'd still be happy to wear.

Edited to add, just noticed you can get them cheaper. https://www.goldsmiths.co.uk/Tissot-Visodate-Mens-...

Edited by toon10 on Monday 6th August 16:43

Dolf Stoppard

1,382 posts

144 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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How about a Seiko SKX007 / 009 modded to his own tastes. Bezel, chapter ring, crystal, hands and even dial can easily be changed. Less than £400 would get him a watch he can effectively design himself - including a new, high quality bracelet. Loads of specialists in modifying this particular watch.

Tango7

Original Poster:

693 posts

248 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Thanks for the suggestions. Shame about the Omega and just as well the size was pointed out! The Stowa watches look great and buying new with warranty is attractive but still like the idea of the Seamaster