Fake Sat Nav DVD?
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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I've purchased a "genuine" BMW sat nav disc from eBay (yes, from there!).

It has all the hallmarks of being a fake, only worked once in the drive, other times it says there is no disc. Quality of the disc is poor, image quality on the front of the disc etc. I'm assuming that all these discs, without a box (and that appear good value), are copies?

Cheers.


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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A BMW dvd off eBay... and you're surprised it's hooky?

anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Wishful thinking, perhaps.

Driver101

14,451 posts

151 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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How much did you pay?


anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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£20

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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...and what would a BMW dealer have charged?

Driver101

14,451 posts

151 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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£20 to update one car is good value compared to BMW.

Why do you need to read the disc more than once?

I'd imagine it'll read and copy on the PC if you're trying to make copies for other cars.

They are quite clearly fakes. I'm sure everyone buying them knows what they are getting.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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It looks like pretty much every listing is the same. Nothing genuine out there, regardless of how much they shout about it.

I didn't cross reference sales channels and going rates to find a genuine product; I would hope that the systems in place to remove dodgy goods would have done their thing. In this case, they haven't. I shall see what eBay can do.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Driver101 said:
£20 to update one car is good value compared to BMW.

Why do you need to read the disc more than once?

I'd imagine it'll read and copy on the PC if you're trying to make copies for other cars.

They are quite clearly fakes. I'm sure everyone buying them knows what they are getting.
Read a disc more than once? Because the drive reads it continuously in order for the sat nav to work?

Driver101

14,451 posts

151 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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MJ85 said:
Read a disc more than once? Because the drive reads it continuously in order for the sat nav to work?
Oh right. I thought it was a load to hard drive. My mistake.

They are fake, so either ask for another, pay for a retail genuine copy or copy and burn slower.

anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Driver101 said:
MJ85 said:
Read a disc more than once? Because the drive reads it continuously in order for the sat nav to work?
Oh right. I thought it was a load to hard drive. My mistake.

They are fake, so either ask for another, pay for a retail genuine copy or copy and burn slower.
No, these literally use the disc. I'm not burning anything. Just tried to use disc as it arrived. I'll just go for an older, boxed/used disc as this is mostly for backup when not using the phone maps. Response from seller:



Genuine discs have blue/purple bottoms, not silver. You can’t just go out and buy silver bottomed media, it’s not available to be purchased anywhere. It’s a genuine disc as advertised. Bmw charge £110 for the 3 disc set, I’m charging £20 for the west Europe disc alone. I make a profit, albeit a very small one. If you would like a refund I can issue one for you if you wish? Thanks.

NGee

2,954 posts

194 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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A quick look through Ebay suggests there are 3 different types of BMW Sat Navs, have you got the right disc for your system?

anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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I do. Pro Nav and it did work, once.

anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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Here we are.



Sideways, great.

ojoman

61 posts

131 months

Saturday 4th August 2018
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MJ85 said:
Here we are.



Sideways, great.
Quite impressed that they have "Road Map 2018" on the centre hub of a fake. Certainly isn't low effort.

LunarOne

7,320 posts

167 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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MJ85 said:
Genuine discs have blue/purple bottoms, not silver. You can’t just go out and buy silver bottomed media, it’s not available to be purchased anywhere. It’s a genuine disc as advertised. Bmw charge £110 for the 3 disc set, I’m charging £20 for the west Europe disc alone. I make a profit, albeit a very small one. If you would like a refund I can issue one for you if you wish? Thanks.
I think the response from the seller is rubbish. Blank media have purpleish bottoms, while the genuine discs I've seen are silver or gold. In any case, in my E46 I've been using disc images that I download from various sources and burn myself onto a disc. They tend to work just as well as original BMW discs, but after a few years you get the no disc in drive issue. I believe this is because the humid environment in a car encourages a fungus to consume the reflective layer of the disc. In that case, I just burn another.

My experience comes from CDs rather than DVDs. The technology is the same, but the tolerances for a DVD are surely much finer due to the much more densely packed data. So I'm sure less damage is necessary before the disc becomes unusable.

mp3manager

4,254 posts

226 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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Buys dodgy sat-nav DVD from ebay & can't hold their iphone 6s Plus the right way up.

Just not your day is it? laugh


ghe13rte

1,860 posts

146 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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MJ85 said:
I've purchased a "genuine" BMW sat nav disc from eBay (yes, from there!).

It has all the hallmarks of being a fake, only worked once in the drive, other times it says there is no disc. Quality of the disc is poor, image quality on the front of the disc etc. I'm assuming that all these discs, without a box (and that appear good value), are copies?

Cheers.
If buying from EBay at a fraction of the cost of an original it is not an unreasonable assumption.

ElectricPics

761 posts

111 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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Genuine factory pressed discs are silver because they're pressed from a die made from a glass master disc. Burned discs have a chemical recording substrate hence the different colour, and the exact opposite of what the eBay seller is claiming.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

186 months

Sunday 5th August 2018
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That's a fake.

Why not just pick up a genuine disc from BMW and sell your old one on eBay to recoup some of the cost?