Psychometric Testing
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RanchoGrande

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1,151 posts

193 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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I've not done one before. Can anyone offer up any advice on them? It's a Thomas International PPA assessment.

I don't want to balls it up due to a lack of insight into how they work!

Thanks in advance.

littleredrooster

6,168 posts

220 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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It's difficult to balls it up, just go with your considered best answer each time and be aware that many questions are repeated in a different way.

Produces fairly accurate results, IME.

bucksmanuk

2,403 posts

194 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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I’ve done them as a candidate, and seen the results from others at interview time. Worryingly accurate.
There is no “wonder method” to answering them, just answer the questions honestly with your first thought/answer. Don’t try and answer what you think are all the same questions all the same way, for 2 reasons.
They aren’t the same question
You come out as some kind of bigoted psycho.
There are no wrong answers, not everyone can be MD.

edc

9,498 posts

275 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Go their website and there should be sample questions.

RanchoGrande

Original Poster:

1,151 posts

193 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Thanks for the responses so far. I had read online somewhere that if you fail then you probably wouldn't have fitted in anyway!

Marcellus

7,193 posts

243 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Used to take them quite frequently and then got to the level where I was reviewing others results a lot.

So from both sides of the fence my advice is speed, don’t overthink, don’t try and second guess or be consistent with what you think your previous answer was, just tick tick tick get to the end pencil down shut the book.

You might not like what it says but it will be surprisingly accurate if interpreted well.

djc206

13,420 posts

149 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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I did a series of them for my job and clearly the key is honesty and therefore consistency. Don’t overthink things, just work through at a sensible pace making sure you read all of the questions carefully so as not to accidentally give conflicted answers.

chunder27

2,309 posts

232 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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They are an utter nonsense, put in there to try and prevent HR people from doing their job. and reading CV's

Zad

12,948 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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It is amazing the expense HR departments will go to to avoid actually putting effort in to get to know people. The HR equivalent of homeopathy.

djc206

13,420 posts

149 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Zad said:
It is amazing the expense HR departments will go to to avoid actually putting effort in to get to know people. The HR equivalent of homeopathy.
When I applied for my job they were used in conjunction with two interviews, written tests, CBT’s and group activity over 3 days. Believe me they put in a huge amount of time and effort.

edc

9,498 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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chunder27 said:
They are an utter nonsense, put in there to try and prevent HR people from doing their job. and reading CV's
Tests cost time and money. Who would bother putting somebody through a test if they don't meet the basic job criteria. If the hiring manager did a half arsed job or couldn't be bothered putting the effort in then the candidates going through the process will relfefr that too.

edc

9,498 posts

275 months

Tuesday 7th August 2018
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Zad said:
It is amazing the expense HR departments will go to to avoid actually putting effort in to get to know people. The HR equivalent of homeopathy.
The HR team won't work with these candidates on a daily basis, they won't manage them, they won't need to proactively manage the team dynamic, likely won't share lunch or small talk that regularly. The hiring manager and their teams will. They should spend more time getting to know the candidates. The hiring manager needs to have responsibility for their hiring decisions.

Marcellus

7,193 posts

243 months

Wednesday 8th August 2018
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edc said:
The HR team won't work with these candidates on a daily basis, they won't manage them, they won't need to proactively manage the team dynamic, likely won't share lunch or small talk that regularly. The hiring manager and their teams will. They should spend more time getting to know the candidates. The hiring manager needs to have responsibility for their hiring decisions.
Which is why they shouldn't be used in isolation and indicate likely traits of the applicant which the interviewing can be looking for in their interview!

W124Bob

1,855 posts

199 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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Most rail companies use this type of testing, doesn't always produce good train drivers. I remember someone who came from a bus company sailed through all the testing , sacked within in 2 years after another newer recruit who knew about his previous record let something out about his reference being false. He had already had several serious incidents even after being restricted to depot only moves. But it was the bent reference that was his down fall . The testing didn't really highlight those who were just not railway minded in the real world , it certainly can't weed out those who are difficult to actual manage regards attendance and attitude.

edc

9,498 posts

275 months

Thursday 9th August 2018
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Let's not forget that a test be it psychometric one or a practical one is just one tool to assess people.