Britains new class structure - where are you in it?
Britains new class structure - where are you in it?

Poll: Britains new class structure - where are you in it?

Total Members Polled: 196

Cronically Precarious: 4%
Acutely Precarious: 2%
The Flexi Workers: 5%
The Steady Staters: 15%
The Idealists: 2%
The Strivers: 31%
The High Flyers: 41%
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Deep Thought

Original Poster:

40,169 posts

227 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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This article came up in another forum thread and i thought it would be worth breaking out in to another poll.

The Royal Society of Arts have done a survey of 2000 people and are suggesting we now have a new class system here in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/jan/25/uk-w...

Where do you see yourself? Read the descriptions below and then pick from the options above, based on their definitions (not your own!) smile

  • The chronically precarious: the reliably broke, people in this group are typically on a steady contract albeit with low pay. 60% have less than £1,000 saved and they have low job satisfaction and little autonomy at work. Typical job: full-time sales assistant.
  • The acutely precarious: usually broke but with significant income “yoyo-ing”. Work is often low-paid but, unlike the chronically precarious, irregular. This is a young group and 45% have a degree. Typical job: zero-hours hospitality.
  • The flexi-workers: love their job, even if it doesn’t pay well: 83% are satisfied at work but 59% earn less than £21,000 a year. High levels of savings: many are redundant “second careerers”. They value autonomy above security. Typical job: freelance photographer.
  • The steady-staters: feel well treated (90%) and well paid (69%), even if work is a means to an end. But they have low savings, and rely on work for income so are vulnerable to a shock. Their routine jobs are at high risk of automation. Typical job: public sector administrator.
  • The idealists: mid-earning, passionate and often millennials (50% under 35), 70% think they make a positive contribution to society at work. They are most likely to rely on others, such as parents, for income. They are urbane and 25% have more than £10,000 saved. Typical job: charity employee.
  • The strivers: these have regular jobs with high income and high savings, but worry the link between hard work and fair pay has broken: 73% are stressed but only 20% think their pay reflects their efforts. Typical job: middle manager.
  • The high-flyers: the wealthiest group: 55% have more than £10,000 in savings. They are successful at adapting to automation, and the most likely group to value new technology. They report high job security, high autonomy and high fulfilment. Typical job: director of an IT services business.
The poll is anonymous so answer honestly please smile

Edited by Deep Thought on Sunday 19th August 18:59

Steve H

7,583 posts

225 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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So in the "high flyers" group only just over 1/2 have above £10k savings and all the other groups are essentially broke. I don't think of myself as a high flyer but there's no group there that even remotely resembles my situation.

I guess the Royal Society of Arts carried it out it's survey in some fashionably arty parts of London?

Deep Thought

Original Poster:

40,169 posts

227 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Steve H said:
So in the "high flyers" group only just over 1/2 have above £10k savings and all the other groups are essentially broke. I don't think of myself as a high flyer but there's no group there that even remotely resembles my situation.

I guess the Royal Society of Arts carried it out it's survey in some fashionably arty parts of London?
I would suggest then take the savings aspect out of it and see which one of the rest you can relate to most?


anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Another opportunity for everyone to brag about their lot?

It’s a weird forum.

joshleb

1,550 posts

174 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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I don't see how the idealist could be mid-earning, yet still relying on parents on income?

Deep Thought

Original Poster:

40,169 posts

227 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Badda said:
Another opportunity for everyone to brag about their lot?

It’s a weird forum.
Its an anonymous poll?

No one has used it to brag about their lot in the comments (and i would encourage people not to)

rossub

5,979 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Needs a ‘none of the above’ option.

I don’t fit into any of those.

Wacky Racer

41,363 posts

277 months

Uncle John

5,361 posts

221 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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I don’t fit into any of those.

One thing the new structure has missed though is ‘The Underclass’.

anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Deep Thought said:
Badda said:
Another opportunity for everyone to brag about their lot?

It’s a weird forum.
Its an anonymous poll?

No one has used it to brag about their lot in the comments (and i would encourage people not to)
They will though, don't worry, they always do.

Deep Thought

Original Poster:

40,169 posts

227 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Uncle John said:
I don’t fit into any of those.

One thing the new structure has missed though is ‘The Underclass’.
Actually that just came up on another forum i posted it on - theres no category for unemployed, no income.

Roofless Toothless

7,579 posts

162 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Or retired.

48Valves

2,770 posts

239 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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joshleb said:
I don't see how the idealist could be mid-earning, yet still relying on parents on income?
Because they are probably mortgaged up to the eyeballs with a detached 4 bed on an new build executive estate with a white Audi and Evoke on the driveway. Plus having to have the latest top of the range Apple products.

marksx

5,174 posts

220 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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None of the above.

Cock all saved. Plenty of debt. Good job with good income for location and lack of education. Reasonably safe industry.

Hub

7,143 posts

228 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Closest is probably striver - young family, more of a middle income and financially prudent with good level of savings (in other words, good old fashioned middle class!)

Jasandjules

72,609 posts

259 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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I don't agree that one person is better than another thus the "class" system disgusts me.

eldar

25,291 posts

226 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Uncle John said:
I don’t fit into any of those.

One thing the new structure has missed though is ‘The Underclass’.
I don't fit either. Odd that we are expected to worry about it.

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

160 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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Defo a striver, 26 on a good wage in the mid 30ks, South Wales but still struggling to afford a house with the massive amounts of income tax I have to spend, when I see other people my age creaming it in off the state.

Good amount of savings for someone my age but not in the £10,000s.

Job is safe and won’t be automated as it’s skilled manual, very low stress 95% of the time

bloomen

10,107 posts

189 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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None of the above. I found school rather wearing so I retired after finishing it.

oceanview

1,631 posts

161 months

Sunday 19th August 2018
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I don't fit any category - good- don't like being pigeon-holed!

As someone else said, where the "underclass" group?? They are unfortunately, a significant expensive pain in the arse for everyone else!!