Anyone got a street defibrillator?

[Jer_1974]

Anyone organised anything like this. I live in a street with 20 houses and was thinking about sending a mailshot to gauge interest. I have two business premises and both have them. Running costs are batteries and pads, living outside it would probably need to be connected up to power with a cabinet to stop it freezing so would need to be connected to the side of someone's house. My house is in the middle so would not have a problem.
Over the 20 houses, I reckon it would work out at £100 each for the first year, then £20 a year over the next five years.

If you got a mailshot would you contribute? I have no problem paying for the whole thing. If people did not pay should they get the lock code to access it.

Edited by Jer_1974 on Sunday 19th August 23:04

[underwhelmist]

Great idea, and a good use for redundant phone boxes. If asked I would contribute, and (bleeding heart that I am) I think they should be available for use by people who didn't contribute as well

[rxtx]

Good idea. I'd happily contribute if the offer came up. I volunteer for my local RAYNET group and we have one in the comms unit, we work pretty closely with St John (who of course have their own) but I don't think you can have too many.

I must get myself on a first aid course, not for the volunteer role since I'm not insured for that, but for myself.

[Vanordinaire]

We've got one in our local village hall. It was supplied to us free by The Scottish Ambulance Service. They're constantly looking for suitable places to locate them. You might not be in Scotland, but as far as I know there are a number of charities doing this countrywide.

[CoolHands]

Err no thanks. I’ll just dial 999 and save my money.

[Vanordinaire]

CoolHands said:

Err no thanks. I’ll just dial 999 and save my money.

How quickly can an ambulance get to you? We're 12 miles up a single track road from the nearest ambulance station. Even if there's an ambulance sitting there ready to go, it'll be at least 15 minutes away. Enough time to die. Are you that confident in the ambulance service?

[sjj84]

We have one at work kept in the gatehouse, there ia another one approx 30 metres away at the village hall paid for by the parish council, is there anything like that where you live that could have funds for it?

[Butter Face]

CoolHands said:

Err no thanks. I’ll just dial 999 and save my money.

We’ll make sure that’s on your headstone

[kowalski655]

If some random person was just walking by and had a heart attack, would yiou say it can't be used as they didn't pay for it?
TBH I always thought they were supplied by the NHS

[blearyeyedboy]

CoolHands said:

Err no thanks. I’ll just dial 999 and save my money.

Defibrillators in villages save lives.

Your brain will die without oxygenated blood in 4 minutes, or 5 minutes if you're lucky.

If someone's jumping up and down on your chest after a cardiac arrest, it'll be a holding measure that will buy you a few minutes maybe 10-15, but- nearly always with a very few exceptions- the only thing that will stop you dying is a defibrillator.

Your rescuers won't even finish the 999 phonecall in 5 minutes.

You could still be in a position to survive after an ambulance has driven to a similar sounding village 10 miles away driven to you, figured out where you are at the location, and set up, but you are less likely to.

Anyway, funerals are expensive and you probably won't save money.

[anonymous-user]

Jer_1974 said:

Anyone organised anything like this. I live in a street with 20 houses and was thinking about sending a mailshot to gauge interest. I have two business premises and both have them. Running costs are batteries and pads, living outside it would probably need to be connected up to power with a cabinet to stop it freezing so would need to be connected to the side of someone's house. My house is in the middle so would not have a problem.
Over the 20 houses, I reckon it would work out at £100 each for the first year, then £20 a year over the next five years.

If you got a mailshot would you contribute? I have no problem paying for the whole thing. If people did not pay should they get the lock code to access it.

Edited by Jer_1974 on Sunday 19th August 23:04

I’d hate to see the day a non contributing neighbour goes into cardiac arrest and someone asks ‘have they paid?’. Change your mindset.

[randlemarcus]

This is exactly the sort of thing your parish council is for. Get along to the next meeting. If they aren't keen, ask the clerk (who probably clerks for three or four others) for advice. As stated above, ask the right body and it's free anyway.

P.s. if the parish council comes through, consider putting some of your time back in. They aren't all community speedwatch loons.

[Jasandjules]

CoolHands said:

Err no thanks. I’ll just dial 999 and save my money.

Not if your wife/husband/parent is dead long before they get to you.

Awesome idea OP and yes I would contribute and in fact I am shocked our street doesn't have one (mostly over 70s live here!)

[CoolHands]

Wow how do the tens of thousands of villages all through the uk cope? Are people dropping dead (from heart-attacks) like flies?

Despite what anyone here says, most people would not like to pay yet another bill. Lots of people say yes when questioned if they would like/buy many things, but don’t follow through.

[Butter Face]

CoolHands said:

Are people dropping dead (from heart-attacks) like flies?

About 180 people per day. So, er yeah.

Lots of lives can be saved from defibrillators. It’s pretty simple.

[anonymous-user]

Also worth looking into the community first responder scheme. Early cpr and defibs save lives but having someone on scene who can provide effective ventilations is even better. They also carry defibs.
Having been one myself, I’ve attended several arrests within a short radius of my house, so they do happen.

[CoolHands]

Butter Face said:

About 180 people per day. So, er yeah.

Lots of lives can be saved from defibrillators. It’s pretty simple.

And how many would be saved by this great idea? My grandad (as lots have I’m sure) had a few heart attacks. Then had a big one in his sleep and died. He was one of the 180.

Reminds me, what happened to the “we are the 99%” movement.

[djcube]

Butter Face said:

CoolHands said:

Are people dropping dead (from heart-attacks) like flies?

About 180 people per day. So, er yeah.

Lots of lives can be saved from defibrillators. It’s pretty simple.

A former employer of mine decided that the site should have several defibs (big site). During the discussions on purchasing, siting and training someone came up with the statistic that a jump start with a defib was only successful on 7 in 100 "patients". Don't know if this is correct, anyone better informed? I think 6 were bought and as far as I know, not been used yet.

Based on that statistic, not a financially sound decision to buy!

[Evanivitch]

These are popping up all over the place. I think in many instances they are useful (large numbers of active people or in workplace) but in OPs case my first thought would be does anyone in the village have suitable first aid skills and would you know how to alert them if needed? I'd answer that issue first before going for the gucci kit.

CoolHands said:

And how many would be saved by this great idea? My grandad (as lots have I’m sure) had a few heart attacks. Then had a big one in his sleep and died. He was one of the 180.

Reminds me, what happened to the “we are the 99%” movement.

So would you refuse the use of a community-based device if it was required?

[Butter Face]

CoolHands said:

Butter Face said:

About 180 people per day. So, er yeah.

Lots of lives can be saved from defibrillators. It’s pretty simple.

And how many would be saved by this great idea? My grandad (as lots have I’m sure) had a few heart attacks. Then had a big one in his sleep and died. He was one of the 180.

Reminds me, what happened to the “we are the 99%” movement.

My grandad also died of cardiac arrest, I live very nearby and if there had been a defrib available it may have made the difference in keeping him alive, it may not have. I’d have liked to have given him the chance rather than ‘ah well, he was going to die anyway’ or similar which I assume is your approach.