Sick and tired of politics?
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AC79xxx said:
I'd just like to ask if I'm the only one on this site suffering from election overdose?
I can't wait for the papers to return to their normal drivel output level instead of being 80% party political broadcasts and 20% adverts.
Thank fk it only happens once every 4 or 5 years.
I don’t think we are suffering from election overdose this year. I haven't seen a single party poster in anyone’s window.
I thought I had seen one, but as I got closer it turned out to be a 'save ladywell baths' poster.
Nope.
I agree with people who state that politics is life and life is politics.
If you opt out of broad political interest you are opting out of life.
Then you might get proper communists or fascists in charge and then who's to blame?
The apathy in this country disgusts me and anybody (i.e most people, therefore) who are related to people who have defended Albion in conflicts past (or present) should bloody well remember those sacrifices.
Ultimately, our freedoms have been hard won and we should f@cking well participate enthusiastically in the democratic process.
The 'youngsters' that we often see wheeled out as (possibly accurate) representatives of the 'youth of today' (often students) are generally so naive it's incredible: 'who do I vote for, I just don't know, what about top up fees?' Give me a sodding break - how pathetic is that? Jesus, these people are supposed to be the academic elite, not the academic dogsh1t and yet at the age of late teens/early 20s they still haven't formulated general political viewpoints? WTF???
Bollocks.
I agree with people who state that politics is life and life is politics.
If you opt out of broad political interest you are opting out of life.
Then you might get proper communists or fascists in charge and then who's to blame?
The apathy in this country disgusts me and anybody (i.e most people, therefore) who are related to people who have defended Albion in conflicts past (or present) should bloody well remember those sacrifices.
Ultimately, our freedoms have been hard won and we should f@cking well participate enthusiastically in the democratic process.
The 'youngsters' that we often see wheeled out as (possibly accurate) representatives of the 'youth of today' (often students) are generally so naive it's incredible: 'who do I vote for, I just don't know, what about top up fees?' Give me a sodding break - how pathetic is that? Jesus, these people are supposed to be the academic elite, not the academic dogsh1t and yet at the age of late teens/early 20s they still haven't formulated general political viewpoints? WTF???
Bollocks.
Friend of mine was planning on voting lib dem, but then found they want to support unnecessary animal testing and was looking at changing to labour just because of that.
I can understand her viewpoint in that shes focusing on one issue because its important to her, and that if everyone else chooses based upon an issue important to them we should end up with a good result, but as I said to her, it doesnt account for 99% of the population being idiots.
Opinions on this method?
I can understand her viewpoint in that shes focusing on one issue because its important to her, and that if everyone else chooses based upon an issue important to them we should end up with a good result, but as I said to her, it doesnt account for 99% of the population being idiots.
Opinions on this method?
derestrictor said:
Nope.
I agree with people who state that politics is life and life is politics.
If you opt out of broad political interest you are opting out of life.
Then you might get proper communists or fascists in charge and then who's to blame?
The apathy in this country disgusts me and anybody (i.e most people, therefore) who are related to people who have defended Albion in conflicts past (or present) should bloody well remember those sacrifices.
Ultimately, our freedoms have been hard won and we should f@cking well participate enthusiastically in the democratic process.
The 'youngsters' that we often see wheeled out as (possibly accurate) representatives of the 'youth of today' (often students) are generally so naive it's incredible: 'who do I vote for, I just don't know, what about top up fees?' Give me a sodding break - how pathetic is that? Jesus, these people are supposed to be the academic elite, not the academic dogsh1t and yet at the age of late teens/early 20s they still haven't formulated general political viewpoints? WTF???
Bollocks.
Probably the same people who've worn out their mobile phone key pad texting in votes for Big Brother etc. etc.
derestrictor said:
The 'youngsters' that we often see wheeled out as (possibly accurate) representatives of the 'youth of today' (often students) are generally so naive it's incredible: 'who do I vote for, I just don't know, what about top up fees?' Give me a sodding break - how pathetic is that? Jesus, these people are supposed to be the academic elite, not the academic dogsh1t and yet at the age of late teens/early 20s they still haven't formulated general political viewpoints? WTF???
Bollocks.
Here you see the results of state/comprehensive education (says Yertis saddling up his hobby-horse for a quick little gymkhana). Socialist education priciples applied to further the cause - create generations of people unable to think for themselves, or beyond their own immediate needs.
A couple of good schools I know of are holding their own elections today - which are hard fought and good fun too. Should be accepted practise in schools.
Anyone listen to the Rieth Lecture last night?
Well "the peoples peace party" will be getting my vote
If everyone who was unimpressed by modern politic took a similar stand and voted rather than not being bothered
that would give the two faced gits a much needed wake up call
It would of course be a different story if I was living in a labour run marginal, but I'm not
If everyone who was unimpressed by modern politic took a similar stand and voted rather than not being bothered
that would give the two faced gits a much needed wake up call It would of course be a different story if I was living in a labour run marginal, but I'm not
yertis said:
Here you see the results of state/comprehensive education (says Yertis saddling up his hobby-horse for a quick little gymkhana). Socialist education priciples applied to further the cause - create generations of people unable to think for themselves, or beyond their own immediate needs.
I have often thought that most state schools are propaganda machines churning out socialist indoctrinated youth incapable of independent thought.
Plotloss said:
JagLover said:
I have often thought that most state schools are propaganda machines churning out socialist indoctrinated youth incapable of independent thought.
Blimey, thats forethought, I thought that was the job of University...
I didn't get that sense at Uni-most of the time the lecturers just ignored us.
and when we did cover potential controversial subjects-eg recent British economic history and the EU-I thought they fairly presented the different viewpoints.
>> Edited by JagLover on Thursday 5th May 11:22
Not me.
I absolutely fg love it. I will be up till the small hours tomorrow - even though I know I'm going to be pissed off and depressed when I finally crawl into the sack.
I'd love it more if I thought it was going to be a bit closer.
I'll always remember staying up in '92 until Basildon came in and then going to bed knowing that against all odds Major had won and we wouldn't be paying Kinnochios 60% rate of tax after all. What a feeling.
I absolutely f
g love it. I will be up till the small hours tomorrow - even though I know I'm going to be pissed off and depressed when I finally crawl into the sack. I'd love it more if I thought it was going to be a bit closer.
I'll always remember staying up in '92 until Basildon came in and then going to bed knowing that against all odds Major had won and we wouldn't be paying Kinnochios 60% rate of tax after all. What a feeling.
unrepentant said:
I'll always remember staying up in '92 until Basildon came in and then going to bed knowing that against all odds Major had won and we wouldn't be paying Kinnochios 60% rate of tax after all.
Rather than being against the odds could the win in '92 be put down to innaccurate polling?
Elections used to be a big event. You'd get housecalls from numerous canvassers, and candidates would tour the area in vehicles equipped with public address systems urging voters to vote for them.
There was a bit of carnival atmosphere in the days immediately prior to polling day with posters and rosettes everywhere.
Seems like a bit of a damp squib these days. Even though we live in a marginal constituency (Lab Maj. 0.9% at the last turnout) no one appears to be trying. Canvassing these days appears to consist of stuffing leaflets through peoples letterboxes when they're out at work rather than attempting to engage in any dialogue with the electorate.
The only exception to this has been the the ponytailed hippy who informed Mrs Sparky that he was the Green Party candidate. Unfortunately Mrs S told him to fk off, before I had chance to berate him. Now, I'm almost tempted to vote for him. At least the poor misguided fool's putting a bit of effort into his campaign.
Crossed the border and went to Skipton today. Market town of the Yorkshire Dales. Some lovely driving roads to play on. (BTW Big to the guy in the black Seat Leon who did his best to stay with me along the A59. Nice driving mate.)
But I digress.
Skipton was heaving. Thousands of people from all over the area enjoying the sunshine and day out. Most of them retired - the sort of people most likely to vote.
However, on the eve of the general election, no sign at all of a pollster, canvasser or soap box hero. None of the razzamatazz there used to be!
How thoroughly, thoroughly disappointing.
If those standing for election can't be ars3d to put some effort in, they shouldn't be surprised at voter apathy.
There was a bit of carnival atmosphere in the days immediately prior to polling day with posters and rosettes everywhere.
Seems like a bit of a damp squib these days. Even though we live in a marginal constituency (Lab Maj. 0.9% at the last turnout) no one appears to be trying. Canvassing these days appears to consist of stuffing leaflets through peoples letterboxes when they're out at work rather than attempting to engage in any dialogue with the electorate.
The only exception to this has been the the ponytailed hippy who informed Mrs Sparky that he was the Green Party candidate. Unfortunately Mrs S told him to fk off, before I had chance to berate him. Now, I'm almost tempted to vote for him. At least the poor misguided fool's putting a bit of effort into his campaign.
Crossed the border and went to Skipton today. Market town of the Yorkshire Dales. Some lovely driving roads to play on. (BTW Big to the guy in the black Seat Leon who did his best to stay with me along the A59. Nice driving mate.)
But I digress.
Skipton was heaving. Thousands of people from all over the area enjoying the sunshine and day out. Most of them retired - the sort of people most likely to vote.
However, on the eve of the general election, no sign at all of a pollster, canvasser or soap box hero. None of the razzamatazz there used to be!
How thoroughly, thoroughly disappointing.
If those standing for election can't be ars3d to put some effort in, they shouldn't be surprised at voter apathy.
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