DVLA revoked licence
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Smoggy XJR

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552 posts

100 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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There`s a thread on another site, (yes, that one), that goes "my husband has sleep apnea (sp) and I opened a letter from the DVLA saying his licence is revoked as of yesterday.

It appears this bloke is 150 miles from home and doesn't know about the letter.

Anyone know what the legalities on this are please?

Thanks,

Tim


NGee

2,954 posts

194 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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It always amazes me that in this technological age we live in, someone hasn't invented a device for communicating with people that are 150 miles away.
Maybe I'll invent something and go on Dragons den.
This time next year.................



st! Just discovered Mr A G Bell beat me to it. Oh well!

Michaelbailey

651 posts

136 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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NGee not sure if you understand completely what he is asking. I assume the OP is eluding to with holding the information so the man can return home? I might be wrong but I am sure the OP is aware the information could be communicated to him but what would happen if he didn't know his license was revoked.

MitchT

17,129 posts

239 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Quick Google reveals the thread and that the guy is already on the road, so if he has any sense won't be picking his phone up. Anyway, the OP makes a good point. Forget the guy's wife being at home - what if you lived alone and was driving home from a long way away having received a letter you'd know nothing about until you got home and opened it, telling you your driving licence had been revoked?

NGee

2,954 posts

194 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Michaelbailey said:
NGee not sure if you understand completely what he is asking. I assume the OP is eluding to with holding the information so the man can return home? I might be wrong but I am sure the OP is aware the information could be communicated to him but what would happen if he didn't know his license was revoked.
Michaelbailey not sure if you understand completely what the meaning of sarcasm is wink

Roofless Toothless

7,575 posts

162 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Why is she opening her husband's letters?

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Seriously, people think sleep apnoea is a reason for a driving licence to be revoked? It’s a sleeping disorder, how will it affect your driving? Please don’t say you can feel tired because of it, if that was a reason for revocation then none of us would be able to drive.

Drumroll

4,523 posts

150 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Gavia said:
Seriously, people think sleep apnoea is a reason for a driving licence to be revoked? It’s a sleeping disorder, how will it affect your driving? Please don’t say you can feel tired because of it, if that was a reason for revocation then none of us would be able to drive.
OSA can lead to your licence being revoked.

"Research has shown someone who has been deprived of sleep because of OSA may be up to 12 times more likely to be involved in a car accident."

taken from here:https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/obstructive-sleep-apnoea/

So yes it serious.

Michaelbailey

651 posts

136 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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NGee said:
Michaelbailey not sure if you understand completely what the meaning of sarcasm is wink
Not sure you know how to use sarcasm then... you was insinuating that they could simply ring up the gentleman when that wasnt the question. Also a g bell didnt invent the telephone.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Michaelbailey said:
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...license was revoked.
Genuine request: If you possess one of the small pinkish credit card shaped things that the UK Government issues to people as confirmation that they are allowed to drive, could I please ask you to pick it up and have a look at what it calls itself? Cheers.

PS: If you live in Alabama, or some other State of the Union, yee haw.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Gavia said:
Drumroll said:
OSA can lead to your licence being revoked.

"Research has shown someone who has been deprived of sleep because of OSA may be up to 12 times more likely to be involved in a car accident."

taken from here:https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/obstructive-sleep-apnoea/

So yes it serious.
Great. Show me where it’s a reason for a licence to be revoked.
I think that you might have to show us your medical degree first.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 24th August 17:54

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
Gavia said:
Drumroll said:
OSA can lead to your licence being revoked.

"Research has shown someone who has been deprived of sleep because of OSA may be up to 12 times more likely to be involved in a car accident."

taken from here:https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/obstructive-sleep-apnoea/

So yes it serious.
Great. Show me where it’s a reason for a licence to be revoked.
I think that you might have to show us your medical degree first.
I haven’t got one. I’ve read the thing and tried to edit my post but pressed the wrong button. It’s only states that you should report it yourself. I snore, am overweight, over 40 and meet the majority of the things on there that mean I could probably suffer from it.

I’ve still got a race licence let alone a standard road one.

Oh and GPS are petrified of reporting conditions to DVLA in case they get it wrong. They tend not to bother.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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My point is that DVLA acts on medical advice on things such as this. I am not saying that the DVLA doesn't get stuff wrong, including medical stuff, but it's not usually just a case of some random bloke in an office going "I'm bored, I think I'll nobble that dude's licence, just because." I assume that the bloke mentioned by the OP (the one who is driving around in the era before phones*) has had a diagnosis of a condition - hence the beef.


* The fact that this was also pretty much the era before cars is a minor technicality.

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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My point is that sleep apnoea is hugely common and as a stand-alone illness it’s unlikely to warrant a revocation.

His GP is extremely unlikely to have reported the condition, as tbeir advice is always “just don’t drive for a bit”

He may have reported it himself being excessively cautious. If so then he’s well aware that his licence will be revoked si why drive in the first place.

Finally, this must be some seriously chronic apnoea condition not just a minor ailment that a huge chunk of the population suffer with.

Michaelbailey

651 posts

136 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Breadvan72 said:
Genuine request: If you possess one of the small pinkish credit card shaped things that the UK Government issues to people as confirmation that they are allowed to drive, could I please ask you to pick it up and have a look at what it calls itself? Cheers.

PS: If you live in Alabama, or some other State of the Union, yee haw.
I assume you're referring to the american english i used there. I apologise and i pass the blame on to my phones american autocorrect.

Pica-Pica

16,608 posts

114 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Gavia said:
Seriously, people think sleep apnoea is a reason for a driving licence to be revoked? It’s a sleeping disorder, how will it affect your driving? Please don’t say you can feel tired because of it, if that was a reason for revocation then none of us would be able to drive.
I take it you are not being serious. This definitely a reason where a licence MAY be revoked. In order for the DVLA to know about it, the licence holder, his GP or consultant must have advised DVLA. Note also, that the DVLA cannot approach his GP or consultant without his consent. Licence holder must be fully aware that he himself has informed DVLA of his condition, so must be expecting this. What he or his wife does is up to their consciences.

750turbo

6,164 posts

254 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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NGee said:
Michaelbailey said:
NGee not sure if you understand completely what he is asking. I assume the OP is eluding to with holding the information so the man can return home? I might be wrong but I am sure the OP is aware the information could be communicated to him but what would happen if he didn't know his license was revoked.
Michaelbailey not sure if you understand completely what the meaning of sarcasm is wink
rofl

Drumroll

4,523 posts

150 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Obstructive Sleep Apnoea, can mean that that you don't get enough sleep, which in turn means you constantly feel fatigued. When you are fatigued, you are far more likely to have an accident. Hence why the DVLA may revoke a licence. (Who actually told them in this instance is not really important)

what is difficult to understand about that.

No difference than when someone has a heart attack they need to inform the DVLA it is then for the DVLA to decide what to do. Same as type 1 diabetes and type two if treated with insulin. Along with several other conditions.

Gavia

7,627 posts

121 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Drumroll said:
Obstructive Sleep Apnoea, can mean that that you don't get enough sleep, which in turn means you constantly feel fatigued. When you are fatigued, you are far more likely to have an accident. Hence why the DVLA may revoke a licence. (Who actually told them in this instance is not really important)

what is difficult to understand about that.

No difference than when someone has a heart attack they need to inform the DVLA it is then for the DVLA to decide what to do. Same as type 1 diabetes and type two if treated with insulin. Along with several other conditions.
And going back to the OP it was described as “sleep apnoea” not “obstructive sleep apnoea” that extension has come after I challenged whether simple sleep apnoea would be a reason for revocation

Drumroll

4,523 posts

150 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Gavia said:
Drumroll said:
Obstructive Sleep Apnoea, can mean that that you don't get enough sleep, which in turn means you constantly feel fatigued. When you are fatigued, you are far more likely to have an accident. Hence why the DVLA may revoke a licence. (Who actually told them in this instance is not really important)

what is difficult to understand about that.

No difference than when someone has a heart attack they need to inform the DVLA it is then for the DVLA to decide what to do. Same as type 1 diabetes and type two if treated with insulin. Along with several other conditions.
And going back to the OP it was described as “sleep apnoea” not “obstructive sleep apnoea” that extension has come after I challenged whether simple sleep apnoea would be a reason for revocation
They are the same thing.