Shiply deliverys with own van
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Nuttah

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566 posts

196 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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I have heard there isn't much money to be made doing this but having become jobless and having access to a van, its got to be a better shout than having to go and claim benefits until i find a half decent job,

Having never been self employed before i have no idea what i even need to do to sign up, i clicked sign up on the site and it asks for a company name, and then just your basic name and addressee etc, i'm confused, do i need some sort of liability insurance? i seriously have no clue, Is there anybody familiar with this sort of thing that can help a noob out? i would really appreciate any advice.


Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

271 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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I don't know about the in's and outs of it but i do know that some of these delivery jobs can pay you the equivalent of bugger all after your expenses.

If you have bills to pay such as rent , I would advise putting a benefits claim in first and then seeing if you can earn any money at this . If it works out, sign off benefits.




Nuttah

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196 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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I think you can work up to 16 hours per week and still claim jsa, so that could work also, I have read mixed reviews about there not being much money in it, at the same time there is a lot of people doing it, i am happy to give it a go, I have worked as a sterile service technician at a number of hospitals for the past 10 years, the last one being a private hospital that went bust and shut down,There are no current vacancy's at any near hospitals and everything in the job center is utter crap needing experience and mostly agency. I am happy to have a go at literally anything other than that until something comes up at a hospital again. I do have some savings to tide me over, literally anything on top of that is a bonus.


pingu393

10,389 posts

229 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Nuttah said:
I have heard there isn't much money to be made doing this but having become jobless and having access to a van, its got to be a better shout than having to go and claim benefits until i find a half decent job,

Having never been self employed before i have no idea what i even need to do to sign up, i clicked sign up on the site and it asks for a company name, and then just your basic name and addressee etc, i'm confused, do i need some sort of liability insurance? i seriously have no clue, Is there anybody familiar with this sort of thing that can help a noob out? i would really appreciate any advice.
First decision, do you want to do "sameday" or "multi-drop".

The big money is in multi-drop, but it is very hard work and you need to know the area (that is know it as well as the local postman knows it). Yodel, DX, DHL and UPS do multi-drop. You will break-even at around 50 drops per day. 100 drops is OK, 150 is good, 200+ is where the big money is made (£1k profit / week is possible). Multi-drop is cheap on fuel, but expensive on running gear.

Sameday is better if you want to drive anywhere with a lot less stress than multi-drop. When you go into work, you don't know whether the next job will take you to Aberdeen or Penzance. You then bounce all over the country until you get back home. Good money can be made if you are willing to "tramp". £200-£300 per week profit should be easy (no tramping and few returns). £500 profit when the other sites get to know you and trust you with their business. £1000 profit possible if you are willing to live out of your van.

You would be better approaching a courier company such as CitySprint (I'm a "supplier" to a "sameday" company called RICO). They should explain all the things that you need to start business.

You can do all the things yourself, but it is much easier to get a non-chartered accountant to do the financial stuff, including registering yourself as a business and registering for VAT.

There is a fair bit of red tape (which will seem a lot), but the courier company will tell you what you need. RICO use a very simple checklist to make sure their "suppliers" are compliant. They do not need you to have liability insurance, but Shipley and Courier Exchange do.

The advantage with a courier company is that you will be paid, and you can query non-payments/under payments with the branch manager. All my pay queries get sorted.

Once you are up and running, you can start considering using Courier Exchange(CX) or Shipley. These sites have the potential downside of non-paying customers. I've not heard too many bad tales, but I have heard of some.

If you work solely for courier companies, you should register yourself for VAT. I make 8% additional profit by doing this. However, it will make you 20% more expensive when you advertise on Shipley/CX.

Nuttah

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566 posts

196 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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pingu393 said:
First decision, do you want to do "sameday" or "multi-drop".

The big money is in multi-drop, but it is very hard work and you need to know the area (that is know it as well as the local postman knows it). Yodel, DX, DHL and UPS do multi-drop. You will break-even at around 50 drops per day. 100 drops is OK, 150 is good, 200+ is where the big money is made (£1k profit / week is possible). Multi-drop is cheap on fuel, but expensive on running gear.

Sameday is better if you want to drive anywhere with a lot less stress than multi-drop. When you go into work, you don't know whether the next job will take you to Aberdeen or Penzance. You then bounce all over the country until you get back home. Good money can be made if you are willing to "tramp". £200-£300 per week profit should be easy (no tramping and few returns). £500 profit when the other sites get to know you and trust you with their business. £1000 profit possible if you are willing to live out of your van.

You would be better approaching a courier company such as CitySprint (I'm a "supplier" to a "sameday" company called RICO). They should explain all the things that you need to start business.

You can do all the things yourself, but it is much easier to get a non-chartered accountant to do the financial stuff, including registering yourself as a business and registering for VAT.

There is a fair bit of red tape (which will seem a lot), but the courier company will tell you what you need. RICO use a very simple checklist to make sure their "suppliers" are compliant. They do not need you to have liability insurance, but Shipley and Courier Exchange do.

The advantage with a courier company is that you will be paid, and you can query non-payments/under payments with the branch manager. All my pay queries get sorted.

Once you are up and running, you can start considering using Courier Exchange(CX) or Shipley. These sites have the potential downside of non-paying customers. I've not heard too many bad tales, but I have heard of some.

If you work solely for courier companies, you should register yourself for VAT. I make 8% additional profit by doing this. However, it will make you 20% more expensive when you advertise on Shipley/CX.
Wasn't expecting such a helpful reply, Really appreciate that!

The same day route seems like it would be much more up my street, I would also be happy to live out of my van as i have had camper vans in the past and would have zero issues staying overnight in other citys in the van, happy to install a night heater fridge bed etc.

I will definitely look into CitySprint now. i am assuming they give you the jobs as apposed to you choosing them from a list? ideally i would have liked to pick and choose the jobs my self and work on my own time, I guess the downsides to that would be its time consuming working out efficient routes to pick up and drop off etc?. A lot of great info there i can start looking into though anyway, Thanks again much appreciated.



pingu393

10,389 posts

229 months

Friday 24th August 2018
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Nuttah said:
I will definitely look into CitySprint now. i am assuming they give you the jobs as apposed to you choosing them from a list? ideally i would have liked to pick and choose the jobs my self and work on my own time, I guess the downsides to that would be its time consuming working out efficient routes to pick up and drop off etc?. A lot of great info there i can start looking into though anyway, Thanks again much appreciated.
I would expect CitySprint to work like RICO.

Our RICO office works on first come-first served basis. There are exceptions, but generally this is the way. If you refuse a job, you go to the back of the queue and might as well go home.

Like all jobs, it will take a couple of weeks to learn some of the tricks and a lifetime to learn most of them. You will never learn them all smile .

The hardest thing for me to get to grips with is that your "colleagues" are also your "competitors". You can be pals in the office, but when that double-up to Glasgow is around, you find you have no friends wink .