Ducati V twin that will hold value
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I’m toying with the idea of buying a Ducati V twin that had bags I character and I can use occasionally plus o course looks the business , as most Ducati’s do.
Years ago I had a 900Ss and a 916 SP .
To ride for me now at 50 the SP would be too harsh but maybe not so an 888 or even something actually later than the 916.
It may be a fleeting affair so I’ll want something I’m not going to lose cash on ideally .
All suggestions welcome
Years ago I had a 900Ss and a 916 SP .
To ride for me now at 50 the SP would be too harsh but maybe not so an 888 or even something actually later than the 916.
It may be a fleeting affair so I’ll want something I’m not going to lose cash on ideally .
All suggestions welcome
FocusRS3 said:
Good point had forgotten the service stuff .
Thought about a 1098s but that damn panagali 1199 is sooooo pretty !
Mine had one cheapish service and one mare! Thought about a 1098s but that damn panagali 1199 is sooooo pretty !
The £640 2 year service did include a lot of work with belts, throttle body reset/ balance and a replacement worn rocker arm to be fair. I used Cornerspeed Ducati who were excellent. There are some advantages I believe to later v twin engines in this respect of rocker arms wearing out but it's something to look out for on 916/748 of that era
200Plus Club said:
Mine had one cheapish service and one mare!
The £640 2 year service did include a lot of work with belts, throttle body reset/ balance and a replacement worn rocker arm to be fair. I used Cornerspeed Ducati who were excellent. There are some advantages I believe to later v twin engines in this respect of rocker arms wearing out but it's something to look out for on 916/748 of that era
I’m assuming you had a 1098? The £640 2 year service did include a lot of work with belts, throttle body reset/ balance and a replacement worn rocker arm to be fair. I used Cornerspeed Ducati who were excellent. There are some advantages I believe to later v twin engines in this respect of rocker arms wearing out but it's something to look out for on 916/748 of that era
Not sure what to avoid really as I lost touch with bikes for a while . Anything between the 916 and the now panagali I know very little about
No I only had the baby 748sps. loved it but decided the servicing costs were quite high in relation to the annual mileage I was doing in summer only.
My current bike is £120 /£220 services but admittedly isn't holding value or going up like the Ducati did. I got off light with just the one worn rocker apparently, could have wiped out a cam lobe.
My current bike is £120 /£220 services but admittedly isn't holding value or going up like the Ducati did. I got off light with just the one worn rocker apparently, could have wiped out a cam lobe.
There’s a recent thread on here about the 1198S.
Depending on budget, that’s where my cash would go.
All of the benefits of the 9XX, wound up a notch or twelve without the scary rocker de-chroming. They really are at least two generations further advanced than a 916. Is probably have another tomorrow whereas I don’t even bother looking at the 916/996.
The Ohlins fitted to the S can be tuned to make a pliable, almost comfortable bumpy B-road destroyer then a couple of clicks sets it up for smooth,fast track work.
Buy wisely, enjoy it and you shouldn’t lose too much come resale.
Depending on budget, that’s where my cash would go.
All of the benefits of the 9XX, wound up a notch or twelve without the scary rocker de-chroming. They really are at least two generations further advanced than a 916. Is probably have another tomorrow whereas I don’t even bother looking at the 916/996.
The Ohlins fitted to the S can be tuned to make a pliable, almost comfortable bumpy B-road destroyer then a couple of clicks sets it up for smooth,fast track work.
Buy wisely, enjoy it and you shouldn’t lose too much come resale.
rodericb said:
Something with R or SP or SPS in the name. Or you could pick something a bit more ordinary (but not overly common) that is in, or has just gone through their malaise period. Early 90's 900SS, 851, 888, 1994 model 916...
Still like the 888, always have although not sure about potential hassle . May go ride one although not many for sale . What’s one likely to cost realistically ? Alternative is the 1098 or did someone say 1198?
My dream has always been SP5 but not at 30k
I think the horse has started to bolt with 851/888 SP2 through SP5. It's hard to know how far they'll go though. You might find something SP for a good price with a bit of ball-ache to boot, like a jap import or somthing which needs a bit of recommissioning. Which may not be a bad thing if you strip it down as you'll know the condition of everything and it'll be somewhat trustworthy to ride. As for stuff to go wrong, the usual early 90's Ducati stuff thirty years on.... wiring falling to bits, dried out bearings, bits falling off, previous owners tasteful modifications.... Someone else might know the more model specific stuff - nothing really comes to memory like the 916 flaking rockers period, or their appetite for regulators.
As for being 50, I'm 46 and don't find my 999R too bad comfort wise and it's not the most comfortable thing in the world. 1098's are like a sports-tourer compared. A mate of mine is 62 and has a 916 and a 1098R and says the 1098 is a lot easier to ride but it's far more 'on'. There's a few people on PH who have, or have had 1098's and the variants.
As for other models of Ducati which may hold their value and not get absorbed into the ground I don't know if the 1000SS would be a candidate. Big fuel injected engine, the old chassis, potential to improve the whole package with some lighter wheels, freer exhaust, quick throttle...
As for being 50, I'm 46 and don't find my 999R too bad comfort wise and it's not the most comfortable thing in the world. 1098's are like a sports-tourer compared. A mate of mine is 62 and has a 916 and a 1098R and says the 1098 is a lot easier to ride but it's far more 'on'. There's a few people on PH who have, or have had 1098's and the variants.
As for other models of Ducati which may hold their value and not get absorbed into the ground I don't know if the 1000SS would be a candidate. Big fuel injected engine, the old chassis, potential to improve the whole package with some lighter wheels, freer exhaust, quick throttle...
rodericb said:
I think the horse has started to bolt with 851/888 SP2 through SP5. It's hard to know how far they'll go though. You might find something SP for a good price with a bit of ball-ache to boot, like a jap import or somthing which needs a bit of recommissioning. Which may not be a bad thing if you strip it down as you'll know the condition of everything and it'll be somewhat trustworthy to ride. As for stuff to go wrong, the usual early 90's Ducati stuff thirty years on.... wiring falling to bits, dried out bearings, bits falling off, previous owners tasteful modifications.... Someone else might know the more model specific stuff - nothing really comes to memory like the 916 flaking rockers period, or their appetite for regulators.
As for being 50, I'm 46 and don't find my 999R too bad comfort wise and it's not the most comfortable thing in the world. 1098's are like a sports-tourer compared. A mate of mine is 62 and has a 916 and a 1098R and says the 1098 is a lot easier to ride but it's far more 'on'. There's a few people on PH who have, or have had 1098's and the variants.
As for other models of Ducati which may hold their value and not get absorbed into the ground I don't know if the 1000SS would be a candidate. Big fuel injected engine, the old chassis, potential to improve the whole package with some lighter wheels, freer exhaust, quick throttle...
Tks for the above . As for being 50, I'm 46 and don't find my 999R too bad comfort wise and it's not the most comfortable thing in the world. 1098's are like a sports-tourer compared. A mate of mine is 62 and has a 916 and a 1098R and says the 1098 is a lot easier to ride but it's far more 'on'. There's a few people on PH who have, or have had 1098's and the variants.
As for other models of Ducati which may hold their value and not get absorbed into the ground I don't know if the 1000SS would be a candidate. Big fuel injected engine, the old chassis, potential to improve the whole package with some lighter wheels, freer exhaust, quick throttle...
I do worry that now being too used to modern day machinery a 24yr old bike will not fit the bill so something this century may make better sense .
Panigale 1199 under 10k is a good proposition I'm now thinking . Absolute thing of beauty too
Only thing I'd add is whatever you get next the emphasis should be on riding enjoyment first and value/depreciation second unless it's a museum piece you are going to park up and just look at or ride rarely because of its value etc. I've had far more fun and enjoyable rides on my 1200 Thruxton R (even with low "race" clip ons) than my 748sps purely because it's very useable and more comfortable to spend time on. The cheaper ownership cost offsets the probably worse depreciation for me.
Some of the "collectable" Ducatis are now probably at values that would make you think twice about going out in all weather and certainly not get used fully I suspect.
Some of the "collectable" Ducatis are now probably at values that would make you think twice about going out in all weather and certainly not get used fully I suspect.
It depends somewhat on how much cash you want tied up too.
My money would go either a nice 1098S which was a really sweet ride (and more rideable than the 1198 on road)- or
go all out on a 1098R at more than twice the price for the ultimate trellis framed vtwin Ducati (and is a far more angry and challenging bike compared to the gentle 1098S).
Both have the same ergos and can be set up to be equally compliant on the road. It’s down to the motor and drivetrain differences.
My money would go either a nice 1098S which was a really sweet ride (and more rideable than the 1198 on road)- or
go all out on a 1098R at more than twice the price for the ultimate trellis framed vtwin Ducati (and is a far more angry and challenging bike compared to the gentle 1098S).
Both have the same ergos and can be set up to be equally compliant on the road. It’s down to the motor and drivetrain differences.
1098S I'd looking into previously and I think one where the belts had recently been done .
Owner wanted around 8k for it with full Termis , let's assume he'd take 7500.
The 1198 I'd not thought of so just checked out some of those .
Reluctance with 916 etc is comfort so wondering how the others compare in that regard .
I've heard the 1199 panagale is v comfortable for such a small bike .
Is there a panagale S and a regular Panagale ? Tks everyone for input
PS I'm a big fan of the monster but I have a Kawazaki 900RS so similar riding position so want something different to run
Owner wanted around 8k for it with full Termis , let's assume he'd take 7500.
The 1198 I'd not thought of so just checked out some of those .
Reluctance with 916 etc is comfort so wondering how the others compare in that regard .
I've heard the 1199 panagale is v comfortable for such a small bike .
Is there a panagale S and a regular Panagale ? Tks everyone for input
PS I'm a big fan of the monster but I have a Kawazaki 900RS so similar riding position so want something different to run
Edited by FocusRS3 on Sunday 26th August 12:58
ianwayne said:
How about a Monster? Not very sporty, but bags of character. Cambelt driven engine though so care required.
I have a vested interest of course having bought an early one last year.
I don't think they'll get much cheaper; I'm considering looking for a 900 version.
Good choice although I may be slightly biased as well, I'm on my third, bought my first in 2004 and nothing else comes close.I have a vested interest of course having bought an early one last year.
I don't think they'll get much cheaper; I'm considering looking for a 900 version.
Early 900 Monsters are creeping back up in price but you'd want the one with the big valve heads and they're getting rare, however there are always later ones that are worth a look which don't seem to have moved in price for the past couple of years.
The S4rs is not really a looker as such with all the water cooling but the tri-colour is a thing to behold as well as being a decent thing to ride. The S2r family are similar but air cooled and 2v but these were only made for a couple of years (The 800 is a bit 'budget' though).
I have an 899 the last couple of years and this summer added an 998s to the garage. I always liked the iconic looks and pedigree of 918/996/998 and appreciate the 899 for the technology and mechanical robustness.
As its been pointed certain series has increased in price. For me the regular versions that don't cost that much but probably give you 99% of the "special" experience and you can actually use without second thought is the one to go for.
As its been pointed certain series has increased in price. For me the regular versions that don't cost that much but probably give you 99% of the "special" experience and you can actually use without second thought is the one to go for.
Motorsport3 said:
I have an 899 the last couple of years and this summer added an 998s to the garage. I always liked the iconic looks and pedigree of 918/996/998 and appreciate the 899 for the technology and mechanical robustness.
As its been pointed certain series has increased in price. For me the regular versions that don't cost that much but probably give you 99% of the "special" experience and you can actually use without second thought is the one to go for.
I have a mate that has a 996 sitting in his lounge that he tells me as gone from the 3,500 he paid for it to 6k ish. I choose not to say anything but it'll need a good deal of work and money spending on it if he wanted to sell it and get that price given its not even been started in 3yrs and its had no service history in at least that time.As its been pointed certain series has increased in price. For me the regular versions that don't cost that much but probably give you 99% of the "special" experience and you can actually use without second thought is the one to go for.
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