Am I entitled to car allowance?

[hooblah]

Starting a new job soon, just waiting for the paperwork to come through so it's official. The job involves me driving to and from various sites, and a mileage allowance is given. There is no company car scheme in place so I was wondering if I'm entitled to a car allowance? It wasn't mentioned in the interviews but I assumed there would be provision for this. Just trying to clarify.

[Evanivitch]

You may be paid an mileage allowance or be able to claim a tax relief against the mileage.

https://www.gov.uk/expenses-and-benefits-business-...

[mcg_]

No

You’ll get 45per mile if you’re lucky

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Mileage allowance, allowed me to finance a car totally from that allowance, but I was doing over 25000 business mileage a year. A colleague of mine couldn't make it pay but he was only doing about 10000 miles a year.

[edc]

Entitled? Not from a statutory point of view. You are more than entitled to ask and negotiate the point. Short of auto-enrolment pension and national minimum wage you are barely entitled to anything else for pay and benefits.

[Stella Tortoise]

Poor due diligence.

[geeks]

I do circa 10k PA in my car for the company at 45ppm, I am better off with this than a car allowance (depending on what the allowance would be, but speaking to others about what theres is it works out) and 20ppm. You need to gauge your millage before asking/knowing what you are better off with, something you certainly won't be able to do before starting I would imagine!

[Evanivitch]

edc said:

Entitled? Not from a statutory point of view. You are more than entitled to ask and negotiate the point. Short of auto-enrolment pension and national minimum wage you are barely entitled to anything else for pay and benefits.

They are entitled to tax relief upto 45p if they are not given expenses.

[Eric Mc]

Entitled from whom - your employer?

Or are you enquiring about claiming tax relief on business mileage?

[Wilmslowboy]

If these are worked related journeys, then the employer perhaps has a duty of care, that the vechile used is fit, insured etc

If it’s a large business, I would think the fleet, risk people would want to make sure you have a suitable car (age, condition, image).

Asking you to meet this criteria and not giving an allowance, could be difficult for them.

If you feel uncomfortable asking directly for an allowance, ask them if they have any criteria on what vechile you use .....might trigger a response from them.

[edc]

Evanivitch said:

They are entitled to tax relief upto 45p if they are not given expenses.

Expenses or tax relief aren't pay or benefits though. You have to "claim" rather than be paid.

[geeks]

Wilmslowboy said:

If these are worked related journeys, then the employer perhaps has a duty of care, that the vechile used is fit, insured etc

If it’s a large business, I would think the fleet, risk people would want to make sure you have a suitable car (age, condition, image).

Asking you to meet this criteria and not giving an allowance, could be difficult for them.

If you feel uncomfortable asking directly for an allowance, ask them if they have any criteria on what vechile you use .....might trigger a response from them.

Have done this (wracking up business mileage) for some time now both for small and large companies and and I am yet to have a car supplied or contributed towards. However in every case I have been asked yearly to provide copies of my insurance and MOT. Suppose this is the DOC stuff you were referring to! One place required you to be driving a car less than 10 years old however was quickly recinded after a number of us who were driving 11/12 YO cars asked for contributions towards buying newer cars Etc

[Sheepshanks]

geeks said:

Have done this (wracking up business mileage) for some time now both for small and large companies and and I am yet to have a car supplied or contributed towards.

Where you literally just doing it for petrol money?

What kind of business are you in? To get nothing (on top of petrol money) is pretty unusual, I think.

[FWIW]

Stella Tortoise said:

Poor due diligence.

^ This.

Millennial question?

[edc]

anonymous said:

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Equally it could pay less.

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geeks said:

Have done this (wracking up business mileage) for some time now both for small and large companies and and I am yet to have a car supplied or contributed towards. However in every case I have been asked yearly to provide copies of my insurance and MOT. Suppose this is the DOC stuff you were referring to! One place required you to be driving a car less than 10 years old however was quickly recinded after a number of us who were driving 11/12 YO cars asked for contributions towards buying newer cars Etc

If you're getting 45ppm then part of that allowance is a contribution towards the car itself. (Wear and tear, insurance, maintenance).

[crofty1984]

geeks said:

I do circa 10k PA in my car for the company at 45ppm, I am better off with this than a car allowance (depending on what the allowance would be, but speaking to others about what theres is it works out) and 20ppm. You need to gauge your millage before asking/knowing what you are better off with, something you certainly won't be able to do before starting I would imagine!

I'm starting a new job soon with a company car. I don't know the exact details, but I'd be happy if this was a deal on the table. I'm happy enough in non-flash older cars so using what others consider to be a "lesser" car but getting paid for it is fine with me! Obviously purchase and running costs would eat into that. I imagine I'll have a year or so in whatever car the last guy had until the lease runs out. I can only hope it isn't something that'll rinse me on the BIK!

[mcg_]

anonymous said:

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Exactly. My current place pays 20ppm apparently for people using their own car! I get an allowance and I can claim 9p a mile ha. Fortunately I don’t do many business miles (on about £30 worth for 5 months).

I believe (could be wrong) over 45p is seen as a benifit and tax has to be paid? Could be talking st!

[JamesNotJim]

If you get less than the 45ppm (first 10k) and less than 25ppm (after first 10k) you can claim tax relief against the difference.

[geeks]

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geeks said:

Have done this (wracking up business mileage) for some time now both for small and large companies and and I am yet to have a car supplied or contributed towards. However in every case I have been asked yearly to provide copies of my insurance and MOT. Suppose this is the DOC stuff you were referring to! One place required you to be driving a car less than 10 years old however was quickly recinded after a number of us who were driving 11/12 YO cars asked for contributions towards buying newer cars Etc

If you're getting 45ppm then part of that allowance is a contribution towards the car itself. (Wear and tear, insurance, maintenance).

Sorry I did mention earlier in the thread I get the standard 45ppm, yes I know its a contribution. Was more in reference to the post I was quoting about large companies having fleet, duty of care and image and stuff, my reference was large companies don't always have fleet