Advice on used car purchase/wheel arch rust
Advice on used car purchase/wheel arch rust
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JMilz

Original Poster:

3 posts

97 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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I am considering buying a used 97 fiesta off a friends mother as my first car. 47,000 miles, £450. 2 owners, an old couple and friends mother. I have had a licence since 2006 but I have never needed to own a car as I moved to London soon after passing. I'm looking for a cheap run around to last 1 or 2 years and to help build my no claims bonus.

The long and short is the cars MOT is up at the end of Sep 18 and the car has rust around the rear wheel arches. See pictures. Having never bought a car I wondered if anyone had any advice on the rust and buying a used car in general? Any advice would be much appreciated no matter how simple or obvious.




Evolved

4,079 posts

216 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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It’s a £450 rusty Fiesta. What’s the MOT history say?

HorneyMX5

5,747 posts

179 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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That won’t pass an MOT, do not buy.


northwest monkey

6,370 posts

218 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Nanook said:
Won't it?

Why not?
It's got rotten sills for a start.

HorneyMX5

5,747 posts

179 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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A visible hole in the sill for a start. It’s hanging.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

16,952 posts

229 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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When do the kids go back to school again?

mwstewart

8,551 posts

217 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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The thing with that chassis is 8 times out of 10 the underneath is going to be worse than the exterior, and that's a bad thing for an MOT. Don't buy it on wheelarch condition alone, take the visible rust as a cue that it warrants a more through inspection.

Going by the alloys and black side mouldings I think it could be 'Flight', so it is also quite expensive given its condition (I appreciate the mileage is low, but the body condition trumps that in this case).

Have a look at https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201... - that looks to be a 'cracker' for less money. It only took me 30 seconds to find that on Autotrader.

irc

9,786 posts

165 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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The suggestion I would make is that the friend gets it MOTd to see what it fails on and the repair costs.
£450 for a 21 year old car which could cost anything to get legal is not a bargain.

HTP99

25,152 posts

169 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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£450 for that!!

lufbramatt

5,667 posts

163 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Do not buy that. The end.

davamer23

1,158 posts

183 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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I wouldn't take that on even it were free.

Dabooka

281 posts

134 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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I'd want £450 to take it off their hands.

Decline their very kind offer and as suggested get online.

steveo3002

11,201 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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rotten , not worth taking on for free , the repairs will cost more than a cleaner mot'd car would cost , chances are the underside is in worse condition

oldaudi

1,618 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Get the current owner to MOT it and see what they say regarding the rust. As others have said, if this is on the protected paint on the outside the inside and underneath will be worse.
If this fails the MOT and requires lots and lots of work you’ll be here next week asking how to deal with the situation because you purchased it off a friend
Get them to MOT. It will either pass and you get a car for £450 or if it fails you can negotiate the cost leaving some £ to get it fixed. I appreciate at this end of the market your choices are limited but there are plenty of cars for £500 that don’t have rust.

carinaman

25,132 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Share the Registration Number so we can check the MoT history.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Nanook said:
HorneyMX5 said:
That won’t pass an MOT, do not buy.
Won't it?

Why not?
Structural rot within 30cm of rear seatbelt mounts.
Structural rot within 30cm of suspension mounts.

HorneyMX5

5,747 posts

179 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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I’ve seen smaller gapping holes on Pornhub.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

155 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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Nanook said:
Ok. I don't see that in those pictures, but I understand the assumption that it's possibly present. I see surface rust.
Are you selling a Fiesta, by any chance?

Take that gaffer tape off, and there's going to be bugger all of the arches left (and add "sharp edges" as a fail). Rear arches are very structural, tying inner and outer wings together, as well as C-pillar and sill. Look at the crown of the arch on the NS - see how the whole lip's folded under?

steveo3002

11,201 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th August 2018
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do you not see its so rotten that bits arent there anymore and are now made with sticky tape?

also see the thread where some chump bought a rusty camper van and is now crying as it cost £1500 to patch up until next year