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My new to me bike is the first I’ve had with rider modes. Does anyone actually use them?
It rained slightly on my last ride out so I stuck it in ‘low power’. I just don’t get it. It reduces power that you wouldn’t be using anyway as that’s what a throttle is for? If anything it’s less than helpful as you get used to a set throttle position/ revs equals ‘x’ amount of go.
ABS, traction, anti wheelie, all the other gubbins I’m all for for improving safety/ going faster when used correctly. Rider modes just seem a complete gimmick - what am I missing?
It rained slightly on my last ride out so I stuck it in ‘low power’. I just don’t get it. It reduces power that you wouldn’t be using anyway as that’s what a throttle is for? If anything it’s less than helpful as you get used to a set throttle position/ revs equals ‘x’ amount of go.
ABS, traction, anti wheelie, all the other gubbins I’m all for for improving safety/ going faster when used correctly. Rider modes just seem a complete gimmick - what am I missing?
Pica-Pica said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
Worst "I've got a bike with rider modes" eva.
Who’s Eva?I mean av it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQxY80vVuj8
anonymous said:
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This is true, most rain modes are quiet obvious though. It also depends on bike, I can honestly say on the ktm 1290 sdr between street and sport mode its that subtle on the map i cannot feel the difference, i do no it affects the anti wheelie control between the 2 modes as it will hook a bigger lift in the higher gears on sport, the manual doesn't go into this detail though. I also have a friend that laughs out loud from his 16 plate tuono suggesting tractors don't have race mode
just sport.Just for fun i have booted the bike with WOT through the gears in the wet in sport mode and it just holds back power until the higher gears are reached so ( bolt upright full on coward mode) with corning Tc i cant really see rain mode making much difference .
They make a pretty stark difference on my S1000RR. I switch between them pretty regular - soft suspension and quite a bit of rider aids for general plodding around, and stiffer, sharper, bigger wheelies when I’m having fun.
My KTM has a switch that allows you to pick between 2 of 10 preset maps. No difference whatsoever as far as I can tell so far.... I end up on my arse in a bush whichever map is selected.
My KTM has a switch that allows you to pick between 2 of 10 preset maps. No difference whatsoever as far as I can tell so far.... I end up on my arse in a bush whichever map is selected.
I use them a bit on the MT09, none of them are great to be honest, b mode (the tamest) is used when I'm in town or traffic as it softens the power delivery a lot, STD mode is for normal riding although it's still a bit sharp and A mode is for riding like a t
t and pulling wheelies as it's quite fierce low down and it's impossible to be smooth with it.
TC is usually turned off if I remember to do it at a standstill or in position 1 which allows wheelies.
It's novel having a bike with them but I'm not sure they are necessary on a 110bhp bike and I'd much prefer the smooth throttle response of previous bikes like the street triple for instance, or my carbed gen1 Fazer thou.
t and pulling wheelies as it's quite fierce low down and it's impossible to be smooth with it.TC is usually turned off if I remember to do it at a standstill or in position 1 which allows wheelies.
It's novel having a bike with them but I'm not sure they are necessary on a 110bhp bike and I'd much prefer the smooth throttle response of previous bikes like the street triple for instance, or my carbed gen1 Fazer thou.
The modes make no difference to the amount of power on mine, I still get, I don't know, 100bhp or whatever, whichever mode I use. It just changes the delivery of the power, whilst at the same time pissing about with the suspension, engine braking and everything else it can get it's grubby little hands on.
With these rider modes, and throttle response particularly, is it partially due to fuel injection and ride by wire in some cases, where in race mode the throttle response can be quite sharp? On older carb fed bikes I would say I have slightly more feel on initial take-up of the throttle than the latest bikes.
Jazoli said:
I use them a bit on the MT09, none of them are great to be honest, b mode (the tamest) is used when I'm in town or traffic as it softens the power delivery a lot, STD mode is for normal riding although it's still a bit sharp and A mode is for riding like a tt and pulling wheelies as it's quite fierce low down and it's impossible to be smooth with it.
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This.t and pulling wheelies as it's quite fierce low down and it's impossible to be smooth with it..
B mode for commuting, s
te weather.STD mode for general use.
A mode for balls out.
STD and A mode were s
te until the bike had the ECU flash done - far too aggressive on throttle pickup.On the R1 ... all modes make the same power within 1-3 bhp peak. The difference in modes is the first 50% throttle movement.
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