Coming to end of approved used warranty - what to check for?
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Car will be 5 years old next month, OCT 2013, BMW X6 40D. We bought at 3 years old and it came with 2 years approved used warranty.
Car seems to be running ok. A problem with these cars can be a judder on full lock but thankfully, no such issues. On a cold morning, the gearbox isn't as smooth, a little lurchy until it gets warmed up. Not sure if this is an issue or not. Would BMW even do anything with this or fob me off with 'its working fine'?
Car has about 80k miles on it. On the actual alloys, there is lots of pitting marks around the centre hub, and the bolt areas. Again, not sure if BMW consider this a 'warranty' issue.
In summary, would BMW even consider the wheel issue and the gearbox 'issue' under warranty or is it just a matter of tough luck, that's how it goes with older cars?
Is there anything else I should be checking, while the car is under warranty? Concerned that its got twin turbos and I'm about to run out of warranty, and I'm also concerned about the DPF. Not sure how I can test how good a shape they are in?
Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated!
(I'm considering a further warranty insurance policy too, but that's going to be a hell of an expense I think!)
Car seems to be running ok. A problem with these cars can be a judder on full lock but thankfully, no such issues. On a cold morning, the gearbox isn't as smooth, a little lurchy until it gets warmed up. Not sure if this is an issue or not. Would BMW even do anything with this or fob me off with 'its working fine'?
Car has about 80k miles on it. On the actual alloys, there is lots of pitting marks around the centre hub, and the bolt areas. Again, not sure if BMW consider this a 'warranty' issue.
In summary, would BMW even consider the wheel issue and the gearbox 'issue' under warranty or is it just a matter of tough luck, that's how it goes with older cars?
Is there anything else I should be checking, while the car is under warranty? Concerned that its got twin turbos and I'm about to run out of warranty, and I'm also concerned about the DPF. Not sure how I can test how good a shape they are in?
Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated!
(I'm considering a further warranty insurance policy too, but that's going to be a hell of an expense I think!)
I don’t think AUC will cover much with wheels.
Worth a bash if you have full BMWSH from that dealer though.
Gearbox at 80k miles is probably oil and filter, which has technically reached ‘lifetime’
On gearbox just do oil+filter swap at a good independent who is familiar with the ZF8.
I doubt BMW can do much until an obvious fault develops (by which time it’s too late)
BMW warranty is great if you price it on their fixes, and plan to keep it forever.
But I’d just use a good independent now as it won’t impact residuals any more based on the current trading methods everyone uses.
Worth a bash if you have full BMWSH from that dealer though.
Gearbox at 80k miles is probably oil and filter, which has technically reached ‘lifetime’
On gearbox just do oil+filter swap at a good independent who is familiar with the ZF8.
I doubt BMW can do much until an obvious fault develops (by which time it’s too late)
BMW warranty is great if you price it on their fixes, and plan to keep it forever.
But I’d just use a good independent now as it won’t impact residuals any more based on the current trading methods everyone uses.
Mr Whippy said:
I don’t think AUC will cover much with wheels.
Worth a bash if you have full BMWSH from that dealer though.
Gearbox at 80k miles is probably oil and filter, which has technically reached ‘lifetime’
On gearbox just do oil+filter swap at a good independent who is familiar with the ZF8.
I doubt BMW can do much until an obvious fault develops (by which time it’s too late)
BMW warranty is great if you price it on their fixes, and plan to keep it forever.
But I’d just use a good independent now as it won’t impact residuals any more based on the current trading methods everyone uses.
I think that's the logical route to take - find an indi, get the gearbox oil swapped out and hopefully that'll smooth out the gearbox on the cold mornings. Worth a bash if you have full BMWSH from that dealer though.
Gearbox at 80k miles is probably oil and filter, which has technically reached ‘lifetime’
On gearbox just do oil+filter swap at a good independent who is familiar with the ZF8.
I doubt BMW can do much until an obvious fault develops (by which time it’s too late)
BMW warranty is great if you price it on their fixes, and plan to keep it forever.
But I’d just use a good independent now as it won’t impact residuals any more based on the current trading methods everyone uses.
Its not long serviced, a couple of months ago, so might just keep the car until next service due and then look at changing.
OP , if it aint broke dont fix it !
You can reset the gear box by switching the ignition on and then holding the throttle to the floor for 30 seconds - google it .
There are a few garages who advertise on eBay a mega flush of the ZF auto box which looks far better than just a drain with new filter and fluid .
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY-4-...
You can reset the gear box by switching the ignition on and then holding the throttle to the floor for 30 seconds - google it .
There are a few garages who advertise on eBay a mega flush of the ZF auto box which looks far better than just a drain with new filter and fluid .
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY-4-...
soupdragon1 said:
Car will be 5 years old next month, OCT 2013, BMW X6 40D. We bought at 3 years old and it came with 2 years approved used warranty.
Car seems to be running ok. A problem with these cars can be a judder on full lock but thankfully, no such issues. On a cold morning, the gearbox isn't as smooth, a little lurchy until it gets warmed up. Not sure if this is an issue or not. Would BMW even do anything with this or fob me off with 'its working fine'?
Car has about 80k miles on it. On the actual alloys, there is lots of pitting marks around the centre hub, and the bolt areas. Again, not sure if BMW consider this a 'warranty' issue.
In summary, would BMW even consider the wheel issue and the gearbox 'issue' under warranty or is it just a matter of tough luck, that's how it goes with older cars?
Is there anything else I should be checking, while the car is under warranty? Concerned that its got twin turbos and I'm about to run out of warranty, and I'm also concerned about the DPF. Not sure how I can test how good a shape they are in?
Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated!
(I'm considering a further warranty insurance policy too, but that's going to be a hell of an expense I think!)
Warrantywise are terrible, was better for us to just budget that money for repairs in the future. We are running a X5 3.0sd at 120k miles right now, it has the similar twin turbo diesel. The turbochargers on the twin turbos are more reliable than the single turbo, surprisingly. The single turbo on the 30d engine is more strained with dealing with 2.1+ tonnes of German so they tend to have a higher failure rate than the twin turbo. That being said, there are tales of the smaller turbo being changed if you do a lot of town mileage, as that turbo gets used the most and the larger turbo doesn't come into much action. Car seems to be running ok. A problem with these cars can be a judder on full lock but thankfully, no such issues. On a cold morning, the gearbox isn't as smooth, a little lurchy until it gets warmed up. Not sure if this is an issue or not. Would BMW even do anything with this or fob me off with 'its working fine'?
Car has about 80k miles on it. On the actual alloys, there is lots of pitting marks around the centre hub, and the bolt areas. Again, not sure if BMW consider this a 'warranty' issue.
In summary, would BMW even consider the wheel issue and the gearbox 'issue' under warranty or is it just a matter of tough luck, that's how it goes with older cars?
Is there anything else I should be checking, while the car is under warranty? Concerned that its got twin turbos and I'm about to run out of warranty, and I'm also concerned about the DPF. Not sure how I can test how good a shape they are in?
Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated!
(I'm considering a further warranty insurance policy too, but that's going to be a hell of an expense I think!)
The only engine jobs we have done are the EGR thermostat and a boost pack because it was being a bit smelly and smokey on cold mornings. The car now only has smoked after being started when we came back from NY after ten days. Air suspension in the rear meant the bags have to be changed, but they are consumables. Other than that, some stupid things have happened that were stupidly priced such as a £100 parking brake switch etc, but other than that it has been ok. Maintenance I would say has been £2k over the two years, maybe more or less, but that was expected of a SUV of this calibre.
If you have the air suspension (self-levelling it is called), that should be checked. Check the turbochargers, check the glow plug controllers. There is a safety recall regarding the prop shaft on the 40d engines, think it includes the X6, was quite a large safety issue that has taken out engines, so get that checked. The judder on full lock sounds like you haven't got genuine tyres on the X6, which BMW would void warranty for if that is the case. These cars need their star marked run flats, the gearbox and AWD system hates it if you don't have them. The judder could also be the transfer box issue, another recall I think for the 40d.
I generally find the gearbox lurchy, think it is just BMW with their 'sporty' orientated gearboxes.
The alloys being pitted may be due to the wheels being diamond cut. Even the normal alloys corrode. But, your car is relatively new, it shouldn't be an issue, so get BMW to take a look.
DPF's are checked with the Carly app, it can tell you in a percentage how full the DPF is.
The drivetrain is relatively solid, just keep an eye on electronics. The car will do you well over the years.
Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated.
Great post Rayyan, good to know you've had a good run up to 120k. I don't actually have that full lock issue, it was just one of the things I knew to check. I've got 4 star marked Bridgestone on it, 1k per change is steep but that's the nature of these tyres, expensive. Looks like I'll get about 30k miles out of them which is pretty good.
I'll look into Carly etc so thanks for posting.
Great post Rayyan, good to know you've had a good run up to 120k. I don't actually have that full lock issue, it was just one of the things I knew to check. I've got 4 star marked Bridgestone on it, 1k per change is steep but that's the nature of these tyres, expensive. Looks like I'll get about 30k miles out of them which is pretty good.
I'll look into Carly etc so thanks for posting.
soupdragon1 said:
Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated.
Great post Rayyan, good to know you've had a good run up to 120k. I don't actually have that full lock issue, it was just one of the things I knew to check. I've got 4 star marked Bridgestone on it, 1k per change is steep but that's the nature of these tyres, expensive. Looks like I'll get about 30k miles out of them which is pretty good.
I'll look into Carly etc so thanks for posting.
Thanks. We have been running Bridgestones as well, on a staggered setup 275/40/R20 on the front and 315/35/R20 on the back. It certainly is steep, but it makes for a good drive with no issues, allows the car to cruise very nicely when above town speeds. We did get 30K miles out of the front, not from the back however, bad alignment ruined the tyres and a new set had to be bought 1 year into ownership. Ensure regular hunter alignment is in use, its all down to terrible UK roads. Great post Rayyan, good to know you've had a good run up to 120k. I don't actually have that full lock issue, it was just one of the things I knew to check. I've got 4 star marked Bridgestone on it, 1k per change is steep but that's the nature of these tyres, expensive. Looks like I'll get about 30k miles out of them which is pretty good.
I'll look into Carly etc so thanks for posting.
People love to trample on BMW owners and say they are a pain to run, but I know that no matter what, the car will simply start every morning and drive forwards, backwards, left and right. There are many companies out there which struggle to keep up with this, Volvo included!
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