Rover V8 in a Westfield?
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But only if you use it as an anchor.
No Joost is right with the standard range rover gearbox it would be slower, the v8 westfield should use the R380 5 speed box from a Rover SDI, I believe. The principle of the seven cars is performance through lightweight. The v8 is very powerful but its also very heavy. The fast V8 are expensive and not worth the difference in insurance, tax etc. If performance is everything then Bike Engined is the way to go IMHO.
I realy mean that a V8 will slow down a seven. A seven doesn't need a V8.
Look at the times at Brighton Speed Trials this year.
There was a Westfield SBD VX 1600 cc car (417Kg) with 260bhp. The 1/4 mile time was 10.87 secs @ 129mph.
This means :
0-60 mph ins 3 seconds and 0-100 mph in 6 seconds.
It's an awsome performance.
Before people start saying that it does not go round corners. Take a look at this site and download the clips.
www.sbdev.co.uk/site.htm
This proves that a seven needs to be light and doesn't need a V8.
>> Edited by joost on Sunday 22 September 19:16
Look at the times at Brighton Speed Trials this year.
There was a Westfield SBD VX 1600 cc car (417Kg) with 260bhp. The 1/4 mile time was 10.87 secs @ 129mph.
This means :
0-60 mph ins 3 seconds and 0-100 mph in 6 seconds.
It's an awsome performance.
Before people start saying that it does not go round corners. Take a look at this site and download the clips.
www.sbdev.co.uk/site.htm
This proves that a seven needs to be light and doesn't need a V8.
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A V8 will slow it down.
But only if you use it as an anchor.
>> Edited by joost on Sunday 22 September 19:16
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The v8 is very powerful but its also very heavy. The fast V8 are expensive and not worth the difference in insurance, tax etc. .
WRONG
The reason that the Rover V8 performs so well on road-going 7's is that it is LIGHT. It is made of alloy and is lighter than a Ford Pinto. It is useless quoting performance figures from cars developed for competition if you are contemplating using the car as a road car. The V8 is ideal for use on the road, no need to constantly keep the revs ups, you can floor it at 2000 and get a solid rush of power, and overtake most other road cars without even changing gear.
John
A PINTO engine is also to heavy for a seven.
Both engines are too old and heavy for a seven.
Both are nice to drive on the road but there are better engines for a seven at the moment. A well sorted VX 2.0 16. will also overtake most of the roadcars when you floor it at 2000 rpm. (Ask Juansolo)
If you have a proper 2.0 liter engine you will have more than enough torque. You don't need more torque in a seven.
Take a testdrive in a proper K series seven or a BEC.
Take a drive in a Westfield or Megabusa a Dax Rush.
And then drive a Seight from Westfield.
After the first corner you will think that it's a VW beetle from 1967.
The engine is too heavy for a seven and it does not rev enough.
It's a nice engine to cruise. But who wants a seven for cruising?
Both engines are too old and heavy for a seven.
Both are nice to drive on the road but there are better engines for a seven at the moment. A well sorted VX 2.0 16. will also overtake most of the roadcars when you floor it at 2000 rpm. (Ask Juansolo)
If you have a proper 2.0 liter engine you will have more than enough torque. You don't need more torque in a seven.
Take a testdrive in a proper K series seven or a BEC.
Take a drive in a Westfield or Megabusa a Dax Rush.
And then drive a Seight from Westfield.
After the first corner you will think that it's a VW beetle from 1967.
The engine is too heavy for a seven and it does not rev enough.
It's a nice engine to cruise. But who wants a seven for cruising?
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The v8 is very powerful but its also very heavy. The fast V8 are expensive and not worth the difference in insurance, tax etc. .
WRONG
The reason that the Rover V8 performs so well on road-going 7's is that it is LIGHT. It is made of alloy and is lighter than a Ford Pinto. It is useless quoting performance figures from cars developed for competition if you are contemplating using the car as a road car. The V8 is ideal for use on the road, no need to constantly keep the revs ups, you can floor it at 2000 and get a solid rush of power, and overtake most other road cars without even changing gear.
John
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A PINTO engine is also to heavy for a seven.
Both engines are too old and heavy for a seven.
Both are nice to drive on the road but there are better engines for a seven at the moment.
I am not denying that there are better engines for 7's, of course there are. The original question was whether the 3.9 V8 would be a good choice for fitting in a westfield. If he had been offered a choice of engines then it may well be that the V8 wouldn't be the top of the list.
People often get confused between what are desirable attributes for road cars, and what are desirable attributes for competition cars. If a car has to serve both purposes than the owner will need to compromise one use in order to optimise the other. If, however, the car is intended for use only on the road then the fact remains that the Rover V8 is an excellent choice.
John
Hello John,
I don't agree with you.
If you want a proper Roadcar take e Zetec 2.0L or a VX2.0. It's enough for a seven and a i don't see it as a compromise.
IMO a V8 is to extreme for a seven (I love V8's!!!)
Did you ever drive a V8 in a seven. If yes what other seven did you drive? A BEC?
I don't agree with you.
If you want a proper Roadcar take e Zetec 2.0L or a VX2.0. It's enough for a seven and a i don't see it as a compromise.
IMO a V8 is to extreme for a seven (I love V8's!!!)
Did you ever drive a V8 in a seven. If yes what other seven did you drive? A BEC?
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People often get confused between what are desirable attributes for road cars, and what are desirable attributes for competition cars. If a car has to serve both purposes than the owner will need to compromise one use in order to optimise the other. If, however, the car is intended for use only on the road then the fact remains that the Rover V8 is an excellent choice.
John
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I don't agree with you.
That's obvious. Notwithstanding your agreement or otherwise, the Rover V8 continues to be an excellent choice for a Westfield or similar car.
It is not too extreme, and it is a much more pleasant way of acheiving the torque characteristics desiarable in a road car.
John
@John,
Obviously we have a different taste!
That is life!
Some people prefer boys other people girls.
I prefer girls
And you????????
Obviously we have a different taste!
That is life!
Some people prefer boys other people girls.
I prefer girls
And you????????
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I don't agree with you.
That's obvious. Notwithstanding your agreement or otherwise, the Rover V8 continues to be an excellent choice for a Westfield or similar car.
It is not too extreme, and it is a much more pleasant way of acheiving the torque characteristics desiarable in a road car.
John
Girls!
I'm not going to be changing the engine at the moment, I was just wondering as the V8 was offered to me for free by a good mate of mine!
I'll stick with what I have at the moment for a while, but in the long run I will be looking for something a bit bigger than what I have in at the moment (below)!
Regards
Graham
I'm not going to be changing the engine at the moment, I was just wondering as the V8 was offered to me for free by a good mate of mine!
I'll stick with what I have at the moment for a while, but in the long run I will be looking for something a bit bigger than what I have in at the moment (below)!
Regards
Graham
Yes it was supposed to be funny! Did you see the smile?
I just wanted to say that we have a different taste of engines that are suitable for a seven.
A seight is not my cup of thee.
In my opinion a seven should be as light as possible and have a nice powerband and large rev range, so it can be very quick and pull nice out of the corner.
IMO the Seight is too heavy and doesn't rev enough.
Obviously you have an other opinion about that.
I respect that but i don't feel like loosing arguments.
Everybody has a different tast.
Regards,
Joost
I just wanted to say that we have a different taste of engines that are suitable for a seven.
A seight is not my cup of thee.
In my opinion a seven should be as light as possible and have a nice powerband and large rev range, so it can be very quick and pull nice out of the corner.
IMO the Seight is too heavy and doesn't rev enough.
Obviously you have an other opinion about that.
I respect that but i don't feel like loosing arguments.
Everybody has a different tast.
Regards,
Joost
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Was that supposed to be funny? It's quite clear you don't like losing arguments.
John
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