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JimClark49

Original Poster

842 posts

171 months

Thursday 6th September 2018

Hi All,

My brother is in search for a performance saloon between £10-15k. His requirements:

1) Petrol
2) Ideally German with a strong preference for Mercedes. He is not keen on BMW or Audi.
3) Would like a manual, but is happy to consider an auto too
4) 4 doors
5) engine capacity 2.0L or greater

It would be great to see what suggestions you have. At present his search has focused on C-class but has not had luck finding an appropriate car.

29,762 posts

145 months

Thursday 6th September 2018

No performance Mercedes will be manual, also when you say performance do yo mean the cooking models or the full fat AMG/M/RS models?

Gareth1974

3,456 posts

159 months

Thursday 6th September 2018

A Passat R36 might be worth a look?

Terzo123

4,622 posts

228 months

Thursday 6th September 2018

15k could possibly get him into a very early, high mileage C63, but I'm not sure that would be an advisable route to go down.

It would be fun though. Well for a short time anyway.

JimClark49

Original Poster

842 posts

171 months

Friday 7th September 2018

ZX10R NIN said:

No performance Mercedes will be manual, also when you say performance do yo mean the cooking models or the full fat AMG/M/RS models?

Thanks all for initial suggestions.

Happy for it to be an auto. Performance could be both cooking, and the full fat. He doesn't mind on either.

Shiv_P

2,981 posts

125 months

Friday 7th September 2018

Sounds like S4 territory to me

Liggle

293 posts

121 months

Friday 7th September 2018

Does it have to be German?

I've just picked up a tidy Lexus ISF for £15k, I looked at the C63 AMG and E90 M3 too but this was a much better example for that sort of money.

jas xjr

11,309 posts

259 months

Friday 7th September 2018

Liggle said:

Does it have to be German?

I've just picked up a tidy Lexus ISF for £15k, I looked at the C63 AMG and E90 M3 too but this was a much better example for that sort of money.

I was going to say ISF too.
If i had the money i would buy one today.

WhiskyDisco

1,154 posts

94 months

Friday 7th September 2018

Jaguar XFR

A friend ran one for a couple of years and it was brutal.

This example, in the classified is low miles for £17.5k
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

The interior is very special, fine grade leather everywhere.

rsbmw

3,466 posts

125 months

Friday 7th September 2018

XFR is the correct answer, love mine.

WhiskyDisco

1,154 posts

94 months

Friday 7th September 2018

Saying that, I prefer this limited edition XFR in black. Newer. Private = better value for money.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

AllyBassman

779 posts

132 months

Friday 7th September 2018

Merc C350 petrol? Pretty rare but lovely!

stevekoz

574 posts

182 months

Friday 7th September 2018

Is his preference for a Merc but he'd consider others or does he really just want a Merc C Class and he's a bit bored of searching?

There are a good few performance saloons for that money. How old does he want the car to be and what kind of mileage is he willing to put up with?

He could have any of the following that are german

BMW M5

BMW M3 V8

Audi RS4

Merc E63

Merc c63 (leggy/cat "x") more than likely.

Audi S8

If he was to be swung away from german then he could include saloons like

Lancer Evo X

Lexus ISF

Chrysler 300c Hemi

All very different but kind of meet the criteria you have specified.

Why does he want German - is he looking for lots of kit/leather/build/brand etc over performance etc?

For me, if i had 15k to spend i'd be tempted by the M5 (v10) or the M3 (V8) .

29,762 posts

145 months

Friday 7th September 2018

treeroy

564 posts

105 months

Friday 7th September 2018

impreza or evo. Can easy get top model ones for that price range and they will smoke those daft german heavyweights.

29,762 posts

145 months

Friday 7th September 2018

treeroy said:

impreza or evo. Can easy get top model ones for that price range and they will smoke those daft german heavyweights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69vW19x4Mks

Don't be to sure about that.

29,762 posts

145 months

Friday 7th September 2018

treeroy said:

impreza or evo. Can easy get top model ones for that price range and they will smoke those daft german heavyweights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69vW19x4Mks

Don't be to sure about that, 300 vs 500+ despite an Evo/STI being lighter they'd be beaten.

stevekoz

574 posts

182 months

Friday 7th September 2018

ZX10R NIN said:

Don't be to sure about that, 300 vs 500+ despite an Evo/STI being lighter they'd be beaten.

Again don't be too sure.

It's all depending on the model you buy. Get yourself a Type 20 or Type 25 Litchfield impreza and it will hit 0-60 in approx 3.9 seconds.

It all depends on the reasons the op wants the car - German usually combines the uber saloon with uber speed and refinement. Japan does not (lexus/infinit perhaps a bit of an exception). So understandable why you'd choose Mercedes if that is what you are after. .

But choosing German doesn't necessarily mean reliable and it certainly doesn't mean cheap to maintain. Any M-car, RS/S-car, AMG-car is going to expensive to run / insure / maintain / repair.

If that isn't the reason and its just power grunt and power. Then the Japanese market offers so very swift cars in saloon form for that budget. Granted not as refined. But they'll be a great car to drive and very engaging and to add to that, likely less expensive to fix if they go wrong - at least in my experience (3 bmw's vs 2 Audi's v's 4 imprezas).

giblet

9,048 posts

197 months

Friday 7th September 2018

Another vote for the ISF but I am biased as I’m on my second one (and it’s up for sale on eBay wink

)

For what it’s worth I replaced my last one with a modified Evo X with almost 500bhp but there was very little in it between them both for my usual driving.

aka_kerrly

12,493 posts

230 months

Friday 7th September 2018

WILD CARD ALERT

Top end of budget & sufficiently different, VXR8 - £15k

Sold by Elite aka - PreciousMetal on here

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