Carrera GT hand brake pads - how much!
Carrera GT hand brake pads - how much!
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993rsr

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3,659 posts

277 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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On a more light-hearted topic loosely connected with the cost/values of cars that seems to be norm on here these days rather than talking about driving them, I'd noticed that one of the rear hand brake pads was binding on my GT and stripped the rear brakes down to take a look.

One of the pads had been hanging slightly - hence the noise at slow speed - and I send the calipers of for a refurb and new bolts and sleeves and decided to order a new set of pads. Now these are not big, in fact they are tiddlers, and although they are for PCCB, had no idea they would be quite so expensive.

Seems frankly amazing that they car charge £411.60 including VAT for these!

The GT is still a work of art and 14 years old to the day this week. I really enjoy doing some minor work on the car, I've got the complete workshop manuals, most things are standard practice for some minor maintenance items. Even the branded Hazet torque multiplier is a fantastic piece of engineering:







m444ttb

3,181 posts

257 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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This is why I love PistonHeads!

SRT Hellcat

7,223 posts

245 months

Friday 7th September 2018
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fantastic smile
If my memory is correct and I have the right chap you used to have a black GT2 evo. Sold just before I bought mine.
I've finally joined the CGT fold

Edited by SRT Hellcat on Friday 7th September 21:27

Yellow491

3,387 posts

147 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Fooking hell matey,im impressed,seeing that lift get some work,well done.
Bet they dont sell many pads hence the pricesmile
No more handbrake turns then;)

hunter 66

4,190 posts

248 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Yes JC , a lot and doing the work at home , Nice ..... also like the photos on the wall at the Ring etc . Will be great to get together sometime , on some event ...... maybe a dance with a few elderly ladies . Regards Revo man

JulierPass

685 posts

258 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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SRT Hellcat said:
fantastic smile

I've finally joined the CGT fold

Edited by SRT Hellcat on Friday 7th September 21:27
Pictures please smile

blackmamba

833 posts

264 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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Great to see people not afraid to work on their cars, especially something like the CGT.

I presume there is very little shared with anything else in the range and the numbers built were comparatively small hence the cost per unit is punchy. I recall it was a similar story for many 959 parts. Or are they more complex than normal parts or is it just a CGT tax?

Do you do much else on the car yourself and is it easy to work on?

Good effort!

isaldiri

24,521 posts

196 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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blackmamba said:
I presume there is very little shared with anything else in the range and the numbers built were comparatively small hence the cost per unit is punchy. I recall it was a similar story for many 959 parts. Or are they more complex than normal parts or is it just a CGT tax?
There's a reasonable amount that is shared with 996/7s (thankfully). There is probably some element of a cgt tax but to be fair the cost per unit for specific much lower volume parts is always going to be much greater than one with considerably larger economies of scale. Put this way, if i have a service invoice mainly starting with 980.XXX etc parts I know it's going to be a bit of a punchy one by the time I get to the end. eek

993rsr

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3,659 posts

277 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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hunter 66 said:
Yes JC , a lot and doing the work at home , Nice ..... also like the photos on the wall at the Ring etc . Will be great to get together sometime , on some event ...... maybe a dance with a few elderly ladies . Regards Revo man
Hi Pete, happy days and fantastic memories and laughs, must do it again.

993rsr

Original Poster:

3,659 posts

277 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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blackmamba said:
Great to see people not afraid to work on their cars, especially something like the CGT.

I presume there is very little shared with anything else in the range and the numbers built were comparatively small hence the cost per unit is punchy. I recall it was a similar story for many 959 parts. Or are they more complex than normal parts or is it just a CGT tax?

Do you do much else on the car yourself and is it easy to work on?

Good effort!
There are some crossover parts, coil packs for example are identical to 996 parts but with a 980 part number and the representative price hike.

Minor works are fine, no issue at all. Mainly things like pads/discs/brake fluid change that type of thing.

2010spy

1,916 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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I got a shock this morning! I need to replace the trim on the rollover bar, 987 Spyder (Part 7 in the diagram below). OPC quoted £600 plus two hours fitting! So about £800 inc VAT!!!!!

I Just got a set from a scrap yard in Chorley for £40! Take 5 minutes to fit!



2010spy

1,916 posts

192 months

Saturday 8th September 2018
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I got a shock this morning! I need to replace the trim on the rollover bar, 987 Spyder (Part 7 in the diagram below). OPC quoted £600 plus two hours fitting! So about £800 inc VAT!!!!!

I Just got a set from a scrap yard in Chorley for £40! Take 5 minutes to fit!



Jimmy Riviera

283 posts

257 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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I think I can trump the hand brake pads JC…….my CGT was missing a couple of the little rubber inserts in the pedals. GBP40 of her Majesty's finest each!!!

Careful where you leave that torque multiplier - I'm after one of those!

Hope all well with you, Hunter and Yellow.

Cheers,

Ben

lowndes

837 posts

242 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Much Respect to you Sir.

Working on the CGT is way above my pay grade. Just the thought of easing the 335 section rear wheel past the ceramic disc makes me feel nervous.

I was interested to see the small wooden block. Reading use something similar to get the CGT onto the lift but judging by the orientation of yours you would have had to drive through the back wall of the garage. Supporting the hub I guess.

Until seeing your post I hadn’t troubled to check the tightening torque but had ( wrongly) assumed that with the threads being handed the torque might be relatively modest. 550 Nm is nothing of the sort.

Just to add to the catalogue of 980 xxx pricing. Oil Filter Element 996 xxx £20.56; Gearbox oil filter 980 xxx £208.50.

beer

hunter 66

4,190 posts

248 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Jimmy Riviera said:
I think I can trump the hand brake pads JC…….my CGT was missing a couple of the little rubber inserts in the pedals. GBP40 of her Majesty's finest each!!!

Careful where you leave that torque multiplier - I'm after one of those!

Hope all well with you, Hunter and Yellow.

Cheers,

Ben
Great to hear from you , yes well but Father Time is the issue , we all had a great trip to do the Classic Daytona 24hr great fun . Hope all well .
Must all get together for even a beer sometime soon ... will be 60 in a few weeks , so all right to dance with elderly now

v8ksn

4,713 posts

212 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Respect Sir! bow

You have huge cahoonies to work on the Carrera GT at home.

On the 997 GT3 Porsche provide you with two long rods that fit into the wheel bolt holes and you use these when removing the wheels to stop the wheel rim hitting the ceramic discs. The rods help you slide the wheel away from the car without it dropping.

Is there something similar on the CGT with the centre locks?

993rsr

Original Poster:

3,659 posts

277 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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Jimmy Riviera said:
I think I can trump the hand brake pads JC…….my CGT was missing a couple of the little rubber inserts in the pedals. GBP40 of her Majesty's finest each!!!

Careful where you leave that torque multiplier - I'm after one of those!

Hope all well with you, Hunter and Yellow.

Cheers,

Ben
Hi Ben, 40 each! Jesus they know how to charge on some parts.

I'm not sure you can get the torque multiplier any more, I bought spares from Hazet a few years ago as I thought that was the case.

Be good to catch up with all the old gang sometime.

Cheers

993rsr

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3,659 posts

277 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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lowndes said:
Much Respect to you Sir.

Working on the CGT is way above my pay grade. Just the thought of easing the 335 section rear wheel past the ceramic disc makes me feel nervous.

I was interested to see the small wooden block. Reading use something similar to get the CGT onto the lift but judging by the orientation of yours you would have had to drive through the back wall of the garage. Supporting the hub I guess.

Until seeing your post I hadn’t troubled to check the tightening torque but had ( wrongly) assumed that with the threads being handed the torque might be relatively modest. 550 Nm is nothing of the sort.

Just to add to the catalogue of 980 xxx pricing. Oil Filter Element 996 xxx £20.56; Gearbox oil filter 980 xxx £208.50.

beer
It's very therapeutic:-) I never rush and it's a very easy car to work on with the right kit. The wheels even with tyres on are very light and easy to lift off and clear the discs just need to be careful I've not touched one yet. The OEM wheel is 27 kgs for the rear, the 19" with slick for the rear is 21 kgs that really is light!

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The wooden block is under there to support the wheel carrier whilst it's on the ramp, as I had to wait a week for the parts should have it back together tomorrow.




Edited by 993rsr on Monday 10th September 18:19

993rsr

Original Poster:

3,659 posts

277 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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v8ksn said:
Respect Sir! bow

You have huge cahoonies to work on the Carrera GT at home.

On the 997 GT3 Porsche provide you with two long rods that fit into the wheel bolt holes and you use these when removing the wheels to stop the wheel rim hitting the ceramic discs. The rods help you slide the wheel away from the car without it dropping.

Is there something similar on the CGT with the centre locks?
Slow and steady that's the key. I've had the car for 12 years not and had the all the bits from the get go so know it well now.

I know the tool you mean, looks like a long stainless sex toy. They are not available for the GT centre lock wheels, which are different to the 911 variants, they are the same as the ones later used on the 997 RSR race cars.

SRT Hellcat

7,223 posts

245 months

Monday 10th September 2018
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JulierPass said:
Pictures please smile
I need to save some pictures to my computer.
Here is one resized